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It links to an old Telegraph article about May's catalogue of errors at the Home office and her personal failings that is truly extraordinary.

Media Guido - jonathan Foreman - Read in Full : Article Pulled in full by Telegraph after pressure from May Camapign

eproduced in full below is a Telegraph article by Jonathan Foreman* headlined "Theresa May is a great self-promoter, but a terrible Home Secretary", which was pulled after pressure from her campaign. It is excoriating........


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Mainly Macro - Simon Wren-Lewis - Theresa May

The Conservative plan for this election was for it to be about personalities rather than policies. Theresa May versus Jeremy Corbyn. The question that the Conservatives want people to be thinking about as they cast their vote is which of the two do you think will be better at negotiating a good Brexit deal for Britain. And the polls suggest that many have made up their mind the answer is May.

Making a choice based on personalities may not be a completely stupid thing to do. However people with little knowledge can be extremely poor judges of character. I shouldn't really have to argue the case for this, but simply point to the current POTUS. How anyone could believe that he would improve the healthcare system and sort out the financial sector is beyond me, but then I had read a lot about him so it is difficult for me to imagine what someone less interested in politics might think. But we know in other situations that brief contacts can be very misleading: job interviews are an obvious example, as are interviews of prospective students. We think we can judge character with very little information, and we often fool ourselves in that respect.

Or take, as an another example, Theresa May. Some of us may laugh at the endless repetition of `strong and stable', but good propaganda is always based on a half-truth, and the half truth here is that many voters do think she is a cautious operator and a safe pair of hands. It is likely most people get this belief not from a detailed examination of her past actions, but from how she comes across in sound bites and interviews on the TV.

The reality seems rather different. Her actions since becoming Prime Minister appear ill-judged and reckless. Take, for example, the pointless attempt to prevent parliament voting on Article 50. A strong and stable Prime Minister would (with a small amount of research) have realised that very few MPs within her party were prepared to be seen to ignore the referendum, and that therefore she would easily get her way. Instead she fought and lost a pointless battle in the courts. It had not been the first time she had wasted public money in this way.



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Post instead preview to get rid of the  weird spaces.
The problem here is that Diem wrote up a list of 15 candidates to endorse or not endorse as a group. And Nick Clegg is on it.
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Proposed-UK-candidates.pdf -
Nick Clegg
was Deputy Prime Minister in Britain's coalition government from 2010 to 2015, Leader of the Liberal Democrats from 2007 to 2015, and has been Liberal Democrat MP for Sheffield Hallam since 2005. Previously an MEP, he is currently LD Shadow Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union and LD Shadow Secretary of State for International Trade.  He says Britain is now run by an unaccountable cabal coordinating Brexit on behalf of the financial sector.  In his view, the only solution to a "rotten" British democracy is on-Conservative and anti-Brexit forces coming together
after the election to create a viable opposition gainst a one-party state, for cleaner politics and for
progress. Brexit, he suggests,  brazenly ignores the interest of the younger generation and they must keep pointing out that the decision was not taken in their name.  
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The Mail is whipping up panic to get their vote out.

the guardian is dismissing it to keep the Labour vote down

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This election was supposed to be a procession to a 100 seat majority. With the polls as they are, I suspect the grandees have already been to see her

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The Mail feels somehow less invested in the Tory campaign than the Guardian.
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May will release her grip on power when her fingers are prised off it with crowbars and not one second before.
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I saw an intriguing rumour this morning that, with Amber Rudd now more or less replacing Theresa May in any situation where unscripted pre-vetted questions are possible, that May might step down after the election.

I think your comment about the Peter pinciple may well be correct and May has been found wanting in many situations where a calm unharried approach is favoured. She has probably realised it and the numerous photos of her strange facial expressions can't all be bad moments, it's like regular photographers have clued in to what sets her off and are queuing up to get the shot. This suggests she knows shes not up to it.

She couldn't just resign and let a new leadership contest happen because, frankly, the last one destroyed the credibillity of everyone who took part. So, this could be a planned "clean slate" election.

She wins what was supposed to be an easy victory and then resigns, leaving emerging talent, in this case Rudd, to build a case for their election.

Of course, the theory breaks down a little bit in that May was supposed to bleat "strong and stable" all the way with everybody else kept out of the limelight and no chance for Rudd or Patel (god forbid) to step forward.

So, whilst this is one of those wild internet rumours that's almost certainly based on nothing more than a cheese inflected dream, there's a strangely attractive logic to it

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I, myself and me. That is how she likes to start her sentences.

Just what Britain needs ... it's own Trump.  But can she start a nuke war with N. Korea? Huh huh?  

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We ever gonna get a new thread?
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Booker has a few inspiring bits in his personal history (rescuing people from burning buildings in his off time sorts of things), and looks good on TV - his name used to be floated as potentialyl presidential. But, his centrist shilling is so, so over the top that he has faded entirely from that conversation, and in activist circles is a bit of an embarassment.
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Agreed. I can link punditry ... and not much more.
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If you have the time, it would be great if you could re-work this comment into a diary to adorn our front page...

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May has been hopeless. As expected, she has revealed herself to be an over-ambitious kook who Peter Principled herself into Number 10.

Except for near-infinite if rather nervy ambition and an authoritarian streak as wide as the M1, she has none of the skills needed for competence in politics - such as being charming and personable, intelligent, strategically gifted, and not an alien vampire from a Hollywood hell dimension overly attached to a wardrobe chosen by unemployed clowns.

If she was any more tone deaf she could be leading a boy band. The more people see, the less they like.

As one of the innumerable pundits who litter social media pointed out, the last time there was a swing this big before an election was 1945. That didn't end well for the Tories.

The scale of her inability to campaign with even the tiniest hint of competence is really quite surreal. She has been driving around the country in the battle bus - with exquisite irony, the same bus used by the Remain campaign - hosting "rallies" of literally tens of hand-picked faithful, who are all bused with her to hilariously remote locations from which the public and most of the press are excluded.

She tried to make "Strong and Stable" a talking point, but she did it so ineptly it became a viral joke.

She pigeon-holed Macron at their last meeting and tried to start a "So - about these negotiations..." conversation. He immediately said "non", and this left her completely non-plussed, as if she really hadn't expected it might be a likely response.

Of course she may still win, because too many British voters are too misinformed - and frankly too thick - not to fall for her act. There are literally tens of millions of voters whose higher brain functions are so atrophied that they have decided she will "Do the right thing", in spite the evidence suggesting that she couldn't find the right thing if someone handed it to her on a golden cushion with a "This is the right thing" label tied around it after a Wagnerian trumpet fanfare.

Will she definitely win? No one knows.

I no longer expect intelligent decisions from the British electorate - or at least not from enough of the British electorate to make a difference.

On the other hand, there has been a huge, unprecedented leap in first-time voter registrations, and most of them aren't May fans.

The Tories have been showing signs of desperation - spamming social media with ads and sending out a troll army to try to influence voters. There's a solid push to vote tactically against them - which is encouraging, but not necessarily enough.

Whatever happens, the country continues to be hopelessly fractured - the idiotically tribal mostly older, mostly poorly educated, but insufferably smug and condescending Tory faithful, at loggerheads with the mostly younger, mostly professional, more tentative and questioning cosmopolitans.

One pundit - Robert Peston - has suggested May has misread the mood. There are now enough people sick of food banks, austerity, threats to the NHS, threats to the police and other services, Brexit inflation, murdered disabled people, people who are declared fit for work who die a few weeks later, and terrorist attacks to swing the vote in favour of a less North Korean political approach.

Let's hope.

The reality is that - as usual - the result will be decided in a hundred or so marginals, and everything else is noise.

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If the Kushners are donating, then he's deefinitely on the plutocrat radar as a friendly. And just as Labour are discovering with the divide between the Blairites and the Corbynites, some people join the wrong party for the wrong reasons and will, over time, find themselves in the wrong place politically.

Quisling filth like Booker just need to join the GOP and be done with it

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cos that's the sarcasm signifier

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Russia accuses the White House of homophobia
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You can't make this stuff up. RT
The White House is under fire for omitting the name of the Prime Minister of Luxembourg's husband while captioning a picture of every other leader's spouse at the G7 Summit.

The official White House photo, posted onto its Facebook page Saturday, included the Queen of Belgium along with the other halves of leaders from the US, France, Turkey, Iceland, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Belgium, Norway and Luxembourg.

However, the photo's original caption left out Gauthier Destenay, the husband of Luxembourg Prime Minister Xavier Bettel.

[...]

Not letting the administration off lightly, many have taken to social media to criticize the omission, saying either incompetence or downright "homophobia" was behind the snub.

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Why "almost"?
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Booker is not in the GOP - though it's an understandable mistake to make.
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Nothing will ever be enough for the GOP to turn on Trump. I used to think that losing elections, or at least the threat of it, wold do it. But the GOP are still winning special elections, even when their candidates  beat up journalists.

And with gerryandering on an industrial scale, I think they now feel they will never lose and so see no reason to care

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I think the Guardian finds itself in a bit of difficulty; its senior editorial staff are all creatures of what Westminster imagines is the soft left.

Which mostly equates to the Blairite neoconservative attitude of being fiscally conservative with a certain level of liberal social support to ease the pain their policies inflict. Not to comfort the poor. Obviously. But just enough alms to salve their conscience.

But it's more than that. They hate Corbyn personally. Mostly they have branded him as a loser who will fail to win the election and thus doom the middle and working classes to 5 more years of Conservatism. For 2 years my FB feed has been filled with the screams of the haters telling anyone who will listen that making Corbyn leader was a betrayal of Labour's hopes.

Right now, he's doing well enough to make them choke on it. And that makes them hate him even more. Because hes stripping away their excuse and forcing them to admit that the real reason they hate him is not that he is a loser. It is that the political ideology in which they believe is that which has failed. If increasing Blairism was rewarded with fewer votes, then their bleats of "just a little more conservatism will seal the deal" stands revealed as the bullshit it always was.

He is demonstrating that their life's work was worthless. that's why they hate. Not because he's a loser, but because he isn't.

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Stay in the EU or lose the UK
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The Vote Leave EU Referendum vote was, above all, an anti-establishment vote - a vote quickly and unashamedly appropriated for the Tory party by May's brazen about turn on the EU. Corbyn's much more nuanced and equivocal approach did not go down well with the baying mob.

But the more May has governed, the more it has become clear to all and sundry that she IS the establishment.  So how are those disillusioned with the status quo going to vote now? If May has achieved anything, it is the annihilation of UKIP, ably assisted by UKIP themselves.

So the Labour party, under Corbyn is once again the sole alternative anti-establishment party. I had thought the LIB Dems might mop up much of the Remain vote, but their craven collaboration with the Tories is too recent a memory for those unhappy with the status quo.

Corbyn has become, or has been made to become, the living embodiment of  the anti-establishment sentiment which animated the Brexit and Trump campaigns. No wonder the Guardian hates him. He has exposed them as the craw-thumping Tory lite party they truly are.

He will most probably not win, but he has done all an opposition leader could have done in the most difficult of circumstances.  Hopefully he will now succeed in transforming the Labour Party into something truly representing an alternative to TINA May.

Things could get really interesting if May fails to secure an overall majority - still a long shot in my view.  A coalition of Labour, the Lib Dems, SNP, (and perhaps even Sinn Fein if they took their seats) could negotiate Brexit in good faith and put the outcome of the negotiations to a second referendum - all the while promising the SNP and Sinn Fein referenda in Scotland and Northern Ireland if the Leave vote carried the day.

Conservatives and Unionists would then be faced with a clear choice - stay in the EU on renegotiated terms or lose the UK. Corbyn would also be seeking a very different EU than the Cameron negotiation - one replacing neo-liberal market dogma with a more interventionist and egalitarian EU.

A win win for both the UK and the EU.  Unfortunately most probably still a pipe dream.

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Guardian mourns Corbyn's polling surge -
[May] presumes her credentials to do the top job speak for themselves. But she does not have a long record of achievement to justify that confidence. The Tories have gambled everything on the effectiveness of their messenger. They need a more substantial message.
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Guardian mourns Corbyn's polling surge -
   "It was always going to be the case that the polls would narrow during the course of the campaign, as Labour's policies received greater media exposure, but the YouGov poll implies that public opinion is more volatile."

It sounds almost as though the Guardian, which has been denigrating Corbyn since his election as Labour leader nearly two years ago (along with the rest of the British media), does not want him to win. Let's put that another way. It's almost as though Britain's only supposedly left-liberal newspaper would prefer that May and the Conservatives won. This, let us remind ourselves, is the same Conservative party that has made the once-surging, far-right UKIP party largely redundant by adopting many of its ugliest policies.

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I'll have to see those words....

Going for the retard defense I see.

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Guardian - Christian Christenson - Right-wing provocateurs say they are being silenced. Cry me a river

There is a delicious irony when free market zealots become victims of the very system they celebrate. When those who pontificated about the evils of the "nanny state" and the genius of consumer choice and the "invisible hand" suddenly realize that consumers don't like them any more, and that the invisible hand is about to yank them out of their position of power. When the market tells them: "You know what? You're losing us money. We couldn't care less what you did or how much you made for us yesterday. Get lost."

Of course, it is "leftists" and "liberals" who are most often accused of not being tough enough to survive in the dog-eat-dog world of capitalism. Lefty "snowflakes" need the warm embrace of the state to compensate for their inability to cut it in the real world. They need "entitlements" and welfare. They need laws to protect them.

Yet when arch-capitalists such as Bill O'Reilly, Katie Hopkins and Sean Hannity find themselves at the receiving end of corporate savagery, their reactions speak volumes. Sermons about the reign of the consumer disappear, replaced by hysterical accusations of conspiracies, political correctness gone wild and cowardly corporate censorship.



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Delusion setting : 11

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