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Why can't we have laws which put under penalty of jail the denial of ALL genocides and the denigration of their respective victims?

Putting aside the rest of your comment, I think this is an excellent question.

Anyone want to bite?

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 01:25:40 PM EST
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Because it is plain stupid to turn idiots into martyrs of free speech.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 05:05:54 PM EST
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Idiots? Do you think David Irving is just an idiot?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 05:18:30 PM EST
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As much of an idiot as creationists, which is part of why historians won't debate him just like biologists won't debate creationists or cosmologists won't debate flat-earthers.

As Marek points out, holocaust denial is not just crackpot history, but a potentially dangerous ideology, but you don't fight an ideology by making it illegal.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 05:22:39 PM EST
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Well, Irving was debated at the trial (and in the book that gave rise to Irving's claim of defamation), some biologists set up archives of creationism-debunking material and also appear fighting rearguard battles at the hearings on school curriculum, and creationism certainly shouldn't be made 'legal' by calling it and allowing teaching it as science. These analogies aren't too helpful.

you don't fight an ideology by making it illegal

You can fight its spread that way. Holocaust denial is not just crackpot history and ideology.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 05:36:24 PM EST
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The consummate asshole, David Irving, is awaiting trial in Austria. He is now hedging on his denial, putting in some substantial modifications there...

So let's hear it for the Austrians! A far cry from the vermin that govern Italy who invited the jerk to speak in Italy a few years ago.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 06:03:02 PM EST
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