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Fine diary. You clarified many matters for me, particularly the European definition of 'holocaust denial'. The crackpots! Do you know when and how the word 'holocuast' became exclusively attached to the Nazi genocide of Jews as it is understood nowadays? In my childhood we lived under the threat of the nuclear holcaust, literally. The location of the museum of the Jewish genocide on the Washington Mall, though, still irritates me. It commemorates something which happened outside the U.S.A. and is thus not formally U.S. history. Now don't kid me into accepting that the U.S. entered the second world war to save the Jews. Where is the museum of black slavery? Or have I missed something?
by Quentin on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 09:35:46 AM EST
Wikipedia documents nearly twenty meanings of the word Holocaust. But The Holocaust is the Nazi Holocaust which was not limited to the Jewish Holocaust (Shoah).

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 09:48:29 AM EST
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Aren't there exhibits on black history in America at the Smithsonian American History Museum?  I haven't been to the museum in years, but I thought I remembered there being an entire section on it.

There shouldn't be, though.  Why should black history be separated from American history?  Are they not Americans, too, or is that a Whites-Only thing?  We need to cut the bullshit and stop segregating blacks from whites in our history.  Morgan Freeman was absolutely right on that, in my opinion.

The Civil Rights Movement did, after all, involve a lot of young white kids fighting for the rights of blacks.  One of them is a senator named Joe Lieberman.  The other is a former presidential candidate, and also a current senator, named John Kerry.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Jan 19th, 2006 at 09:49:44 AM EST
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Well, don't the native Americans have a museum on the Mall? Aren't they also 'just' U.S. persons. The Jewish genocide is equally 'just' part of general world history. So what's the point of such a museum: so we will never forget? Good, let's hope that we and future generations will also never forget the plight of the African people who were taken by force by white people to what is now the U.S. (and other places), had to live there as the PRIVATE PROPERTY of white people until emancipation, suffered the white people's denial of their basic civil rights until only 40/50 years ago, and I don't know what else. They have as much if not more of a right than the victims of Nazi barbarism to a monumental institution on the U.S. Mall: so we will remember, never forget. Or not? Yes, there is the museum on Ellis Island for the European immigrants. What does this have to do with the forbears of black Americans? Generosity. The quaint U.S. melting-pot stuff we all learned in primary school is far from the truth.
by Quentin on Fri Jan 20th, 2006 at 05:28:56 AM EST
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