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"long-standing conflict between Sunnis and Shi'ia"

There was not a long-standing conflict in Iraq between Sunnis/Shia, they were fighting together against Iran without much trouble.

The mess was created by the anglosaxons invaders, NOT by Sunnis/Shia.
This horror would not exist if the infrastructures/government/army/oil/university/police have not been destroyed by this war and the inhumane sanctions that were in place since 1992 (enforced by the anglosaxons).

i find frankly too convenient to blame the Sunnis/Shia for this miserable failure.

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Fri Nov 24th, 2006 at 06:36:21 AM EST
If the Anglo-saxon invaders didn't have this frame that every country outside the US is torn by sectarian conflict and the role of "the west" is to manage the sectarian factions, the sectarian factions wouldn't have been empowered.

The false parallel with the occupation of Germany and "debaathification" also played a role, of course, as well as the absolute lack of post-invasion planning and the inability to take control (Baghdad looting) though, seeing that the Oil ministray was indeed protected from looting one would have to conclude it was not inabillity but unwillingness.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 24th, 2006 at 06:45:26 AM EST
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Let's say the invasion had succeeded as (allegedly) planned and Iraqi oil was now flowing at full capacity.

What would the price of oil be on the markets?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 24th, 2006 at 07:44:14 AM EST
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There was not a long-standing conflict in Iraq between Sunnis/Shia

The conflict goes back almost 1400 years, and you're simply demonstrating Hussein's dictatorial powers by referencing cooperation in the Iran / Iraq war.

The only lesson here is that it is terrible to be on the short end of history.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Nov 24th, 2006 at 03:43:34 PM EST
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in 1400y , There have been pretty much no deadly conflict between Shia/Sunni (we cannot say the same in Europe).

Think of US without any infrastructure, police, army, education, water, bank system, electricity, with some reckless foreigners that put a huge mess. With the quantity of weaponry each American have, i am quite confident you would have the kind a deadly anarchy we see in Iraq.

the Iraq will be stabilized by the religious, and it will not be pretty.

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Fri Nov 24th, 2006 at 04:37:20 PM EST
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I think you're talking at someone else.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Nov 24th, 2006 at 04:42:36 PM EST
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i am talking to you ;-)
by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Fri Nov 24th, 2006 at 06:57:59 PM EST
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