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this is the second time in recent days that I see stories about povery in Germany. The survey of the Economist on France last week also flagged the "worrying" poverty numbers for France.

Who the fuck are they kidding? Not that poverty is not a problem, of course it is, but the point is that it is a MUCH SMALLER problem in France and Germany than in the USA or the UK (precisely, I might add, because of the policies these people are hell bent on "reforming), and yet we now only talk about poverty in France or Germany and people end up thinking - becuase that's essentially what's being stated - that there is no poverty in the USA and the UK.

And yes, this pisses me off to no end.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 04:10:55 PM EST
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If so, the Economist is hopping on a German domestic debate by turning it upside down and omitting comparison. A study for a branch of the SPD analysed that the neoliberal reforms of recent years in Germany have created a new underclass (Unterschicht). There was much hypocritical debate after this (with former Schröderites in denial, Greens pretending they had no part in it, and CDU pretending this is only about Schröder era policies).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 06:41:51 PM EST
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I note the Unterschichten-Debatte gave a slight dent in SPD's poll numbers, moving it again under CDU's..

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 06:43:47 PM EST
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What is the definition of poverty?

Is it a monetary metric that may include those who by choice have a self-restricted consumption lifestyle? Is it based on ownership? I recall the definition of poverty in a UK study of the 80s that used non-ownership of a colour TV as one definition.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 5th, 2006 at 06:21:28 AM EST
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A standard definition of poverty is 60% of median income.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 5th, 2006 at 07:00:13 AM EST
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I don't think that the low approval ratings are simply about believing the English-language press.

I read the German situation as somewhat analogous to that in the US. There as well, the macroeconomic metrics are looking pretty good, at least superficially. But the Repugs are unable to capitalize on this because none of the gains are trickling down (if you will excuse that term) to the broader society.

To my mind it's about fairness.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Sun Nov 5th, 2006 at 08:51:11 AM EST
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