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Reading that meaning into it, however, would be rather pedantic, and would probably be a joke, because the meaning is clear. It's kind of like can and may.
There's also between and in between... A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
Please, my English pronounciation is bad enough, would you explain what the above is about? *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Things have come to a pretty pass Our romance is growing flat, For you like this and the other While I go for this and that, Goodness knows what the end will be Oh I don't know where I'm at It looks as if we two will never be one Something must be done: You say either and I say either, You say neither and I say neither Either, either Neither, neither Let's call the whole thing off. You like potato and I like potahto You like tomato and I like tomahto Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto. Let's call the whole thing off But oh, if we call the whole thing off Then we must part And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart So if you like pyjamas and I like pyjahmas, I'll wear pyjamas and give up pyajahmas For we know we need each other so we Better call the whole thing off Let's call the whole thing off. You say laughter and I say larfter You say after and I say arfter Laughter, larfter after arfter Let's call the whole thing off, You like vanilla and I like vanella You saspiralla, and I saspirella Vanilla vanella chocolate strawberry Let's call the whole thing off But oh if we call the whole thing of then we must part And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart So if you go for oysters and I go for ersters I'll order oysters and cancel the ersters For we know we need each other so we Better call the calling off off, Let's call the whole thing off. I say father, and you say pater, I saw mother and you say mater Pater, mater Uncle, auntie let's call the whole thing off. I like bananas and you like banahnahs I say Havana and I get Havahnah Bananas, banahnahs Havana, Havahnah Go your way, I'll go mine So if I go for scallops and you go for lobsters, So all right no contest we'll order lobseter For we know we need each other so we Better call the calling off off, Let's call the whole thing off.
Goodness knows what the end will be Oh I don't know where I'm at It looks as if we two will never be one Something must be done:
You say either and I say either, You say neither and I say neither Either, either Neither, neither Let's call the whole thing off.
You like potato and I like potahto You like tomato and I like tomahto Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto. Let's call the whole thing off
But oh, if we call the whole thing off Then we must part And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart
So if you like pyjamas and I like pyjahmas, I'll wear pyjamas and give up pyajahmas For we know we need each other so we Better call the whole thing off Let's call the whole thing off.
You say laughter and I say larfter You say after and I say arfter Laughter, larfter after arfter Let's call the whole thing off,
You like vanilla and I like vanella You saspiralla, and I saspirella Vanilla vanella chocolate strawberry Let's call the whole thing off
But oh if we call the whole thing of then we must part And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart
So if you go for oysters and I go for ersters I'll order oysters and cancel the ersters For we know we need each other so we Better call the calling off off, Let's call the whole thing off.
I say father, and you say pater, I saw mother and you say mater Pater, mater Uncle, auntie let's call the whole thing off.
I like bananas and you like banahnahs I say Havana and I get Havahnah Bananas, banahnahs Havana, Havahnah Go your way, I'll go mine
So if I go for scallops and you go for lobsters, So all right no contest we'll order lobseter For we know we need each other so we Better call the calling off off, Let's call the whole thing off.
in this English grammar, they give five usages for between:
Between 1. An intermediate location: Toronto lies between Montreal and Vancouver. 2. An intermediate time: between Christmas and New Year's Day 3. Intermediate in a series: B comes between A and C in the alphabet. 4. An intermediate amount: between five and ten people 5. Within a group of two: The money was shared between two people.
That would imply to me, that "between" can not be used to describe a movement, more a location. (Accusativic rather than Ablativic in a Latin sense - says he talking rubbish)
I just felt, it was not quite right, but I know all my English teacher would laugh at me heartily. (I was consistently their worst pupil...)
Usages 2 and 3 are metaphorical motion (but 4 isn't, that's what distinguishes 3 and 4, but I have some doubts about that), as George Lakoff would say. However, you are right, it does not seem to include the endpoints.
It is interesting that one can say 'from A to B' or 'from B to A' but there is no way to indicate going from one point to the other while leaving the direction ambiguous. This is why oriented manifolds are an easier concept to grasp than unoriented ones (and the integers an easier concept to grasp than parity).
I'll stop now. A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
I thought about this for a moment, and was wondering whether any of the following could work:
"go from A towards B" (some ambiguity remains) "go from A straight to B" (little or no ambiguity?) "go east from A to B"
?
With paths it's easier ... "he travelled on the road between A and B" ... though using sequential letters may through you off here (try instead: "he travelled on the road between Paris and Berlin for months")
With surfaces even easier ... "he travelled in Germany" (which to the alert reader is the zone that lies roughly between A and B)
They did some research in Franken and asked people about the direction to the next village and found correlation between the relative age of the villages and the prepositions used to describe the way. So "over there, " the other village was younger, and "back there" the village was older. Funny eh.
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