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You are thinking Germany-France. But there making peace was the basis for going union. This is no longer valid when you think Greek Cyprus-Turkish Cyprus/Turkey or Baltics-second-class-Russian-citizens/Russia (to make things worse, in both cases with the patron outside of the EU), or Hungary-Romania, or Central European majority populations-Gypsies.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Jan 17th, 2007 at 06:40:11 PM EST
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No, I am speaking specifically of what's happening right now in these countries: no international crisis. Sure, simmering stuff, but it hasn't gotten out of hand. Thanks to the EU.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 17th, 2007 at 06:44:57 PM EST
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Simmering was the status quo, pre-EU already. In the candidacy period, there was at least some progress, some lessening of the simmering. I can't see what effect of the EU membership you see.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Jan 17th, 2007 at 07:03:14 PM EST
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And why do you not credit the EU during the candidacy period?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 18th, 2007 at 01:32:13 AM EST
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I do, all I'm saying is that it is delusional to expect significant progress when the EU Becomes tied to one of the parties and gives it the power to use tge issue in horse-trading at the Council.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 18th, 2007 at 03:12:20 AM EST
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You misunderstand, I did, and that's the very point! A longer candidacy period would have been more beneficial, a candidacy period extending until the conflict parties hammer out lasting solutions fitting into the EU framework. The prize at the end of the road (e.g. sitting on the table, be recognised, and get the money) was and would have been a motivating factor, and if the top accession negotiators and the decisionmakers in the Council had made it more clear to the leaders, the spirit of the (old) EU(EC) would have been adopted to a fuller extent.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jan 18th, 2007 at 04:37:11 AM EST
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