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Yes, unfortunately given the last few decades, it is. Still, America did have its brief progressive periods, such as when the liberalism of people like John Dewey was influential, so the equating of the two is a bit unfair, or at any rate, ahistorical.

Still, to be frank, I should admit that under current conditions, personally I do equate the two.

It is an interesting question why—when the American break for independence with its proclamation of universal human rights that, as far as I know, had some inspirational influence on the French to launch their own revolution—America has come to be the agitator for everything regressive. The only thing that comes to my mind at the moment is that Americans, because they were all immigrants, were never able to develop a deep sense of community, one that spanned the entire nation. And that inevitably lead to capitalism, with its indifference to the problem of the existence of poverty in a society of great wealth, developing unchecked, like a cancer (the New Deal and other expressions of the progressive impulse in America notwithstanding).

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by Alexander on Thu Jan 18th, 2007 at 03:32:45 AM EST
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In Sweden I am not aware of "pro-american" (and especially its counterpart "anti-american") being used much until after the end of the cold war. During the cold war I think the term was "pro-western" or something.

That it has come in use after the end of the cold war suggest to me that the term (and its counterpart) are acknowledgements of the "American Empire" with the question of if you are for or against it.

I think someone accused of being "anti-american" should defend themselves with explaining that they are anti-liechtensteinian. That all there actions are determined by their hatred for everything from Liechtenstein and that their single-minded purpose is to crush that nation and everything it stands for. If delivered the right way it should expose the underpinnings of the term "anti-american" (and thus also "pro-american"). (If one lives in say Austria, Switzerland or Liechtenstein one might want to choose Andorra instead.)


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by A swedish kind of death on Thu Jan 18th, 2007 at 07:22:04 AM EST
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