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Surveillance will always be more expensive than non-surveillance. At least until we have AI.

Speaking of, when we do get AI, attention will become plentiful and most of the world will go nuts for lack of things to do. Switching to an economy of purpose (4th) would be an immense shock if the old economy of labour (2nd) hasn't already dissolved.

I think the technology you're looking for is the social concept of privacy so powerful in Germany and the Nordic countries. Think of Piratbyran and Piratpartiet.

by richardk (richard kulisz gmail) on Sat Jan 27th, 2007 at 04:56:48 AM EST
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"...Piratbyran and Piratpartiet."

Interesting. I assume that

"...the social concept of privacy so powerful in Germany and the Nordic countries."

includes the motivations behind this --

"Antipiratbyrån's tactics inspired some 4,000 Swedes to complain through e-mail to the Swedish Data Inspection Board that the group's IP tracking violated data-privacy laws."

-- and the concern that it shows regarding database contents. Are there aspects of this that are related, but markedly different? I'm interested in getting a better sense of this in cultural terms.

BTW, it is of course taboo to discuss AI as if it might be realised, and have consequences.

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by technopolitical on Sun Jan 28th, 2007 at 01:09:48 AM EST
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As if? AI is being realized. Most of the dimensions of it anyways.

As for privacy, Germany can't even run a census because citizens refuse to provide personal information.

But see also how information is used by the German bureaucracy.

by richardk (richard kulisz gmail) on Sun Jan 28th, 2007 at 10:16:56 AM EST
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