"Because they can't generate enough power"

and round we go again...

Did we have any debates that summed this up anywhere?  I remember discussing wind turbines and railways with DoDo, there were some numbers in that.  And there was another debate where we worked out the power output of wind turbines plus geo-thermal plus solar.  Then we can add wave power (anyone got any info on that?) and there were those European Parliament translator chaps and chapesses, one of whom had a link to a site with that funky map showing PV across the sahara and down into the arabin peninsula, wind around the top left of europe, geo thermal to the centre right...

So maybe throw out the challenge:

Can someone show me the proof that renewables can't supply Europe (and by implication any other large group of countries = all humans on the planet) with enough energy to...

And there's another merry-go-round there.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.