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I don't think you're gonna get much disagreement here. I think there is general dismay that, whilst the American public is way over 60% in favour of getting the heck out of Iraq, the US political establishment is still broadly supportive of the adventure.

Hilary has no intention of leaving Iraq. I believe she intends to leave about 80,000 troops there in the 6 big mega-bases to ensure rapid response to any threat to "America's" oil supply. Obama isn't much better either.

Hilary is effectively a republican-lite, an instinctive appeaser of all right wing ideologies. she has no progressive values whatsoever.

I think the recent explosions on Kos from Therisnospoon and Hunter demonstrate that the netroots are beginning to realise there is more to this game of politics than electing people with a (D) after their name.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Dec 11th, 2007 at 01:09:52 PM EST

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