Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
Display:
Gendercide Watch: The Srebrenica Massacre
Extensive forensic investigations of the Srebrenica massacre sites has so far turned up some 3,000 bodies. Only a few have been successfully identified. They are held at a combined memorial and mortuary in Tuzla

The red cross lists 7,079 missing from Srebrenica, although  they acknowledge that that number could be an underestimate as they only take reports of missing people from family members. if an entire family has been killed they do not include them

Srebrenicas missing form 38% of the entire number missing from the entire war. and I know people who were there and did have the job of digging up mass graves and recovering the remains. The idea that we're part of a western anti-Serb campaign is frankly insulting, If you look back over past postings here you'll see that we have been as forcefull in condemning and calling for the prosecution of people involved in the Iraq campaigns.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Dec 12th, 2007 at 09:09:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm not suggesting that you are part of an anti-Serb campaign. I am suggesting that there IS a Western anti-Serb campaign.
I do not condone in any manner way or form the massacres in Bosnia, Croatia or Kosovo. I do condemn the continuous over mediatization of atrocities perpetrated by one of the 4 sides.
And in particular, I condemn the fact that "Serb atrocities" are being used 10-15 years down the line, to justify the illegal redrawing of national borders which will end up shrinking the Serbian state to Belgrade and its suburbs.
Of the 3 000 corpses, how many were Serb? Regarding the Red Cross, I've read a number of (disputable) reports which question their neutrality. In particular, they were accused, by the Serbs, of ferrying soldiers and arms to and from Bosnian Muslim controlled areas. The International Red Cross is known to have run the Rat Lines after World War II which organized the evacuation of Croatian Nazis to the Vatican and out to the Americas for later use against the Soviets during the cold war. (see Rat Lines by Mark Aarons and John Loftus - 1991).
But even if it was 8 000 dead... there were 900 000 refugees in Serbia. Conclusion: war is terrible.
by vladimir on Wed Dec 12th, 2007 at 09:57:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Regarding the Red Cross, I've read a number of (disputable) reports which question their neutrality. In particular, they were accused, by the Serbs, of ferrying soldiers and arms to and from Bosnian Muslim controlled areas.

This reeks of bovine excrement. The 'they're ferrying soldiers/terrorists/partisans around in ambulances' is standard propaganda fare. Every time some overly nervous/shell-shocked/trigger-happy gunner somewhere massacres a medevac team we get the same old sh/t about kalashnikovs in the ambulance. Sorry, but I don't buy that anymore.

Regarding the claimed excessive hounding of the Serbian government and/or people over the Balkan war atrocities, I got pretty much the same line from a Croatian I talked with at a conference last year. Except, of course, that in his version of history the Croatians were the ones that were being unjustly maligned, while the international community was coddling and appeasing Serbia. The two recurring themes were that yes, the Croatian generals had committed war crimes, but they had done so defending their country - an argument that was not hard to dismiss - and "the US is committing war crimes too. Is the US ever going to hand one of its generals over to the Hague?" (which I must admit was somewhat harder to come up with a good answer for on the fly).

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Dec 12th, 2007 at 03:58:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Display:

Occasional Series