LQD: Camara revisited | 12 comments (12 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: LQD: Camara revisited (4.00 / 2)

Growth is driven by the mathematics of compound interest on a deficit-based money supply.

Change that, and you change everything by removing the principal obstacle to "contraction and convergence".

The reason I am optimistic that the change may be made is that:

(a) the current system is breaking down as we speak;

(b) there is an "emergent" alternative.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 09:55:00 AM EST

Re: LQD: Camara revisited (none / 1)

So there would be no growth in your ideal economy?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 10:06:42 AM EST
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Re: LQD: Camara revisited (4.00 / 2)

No 'growth' of what?

'Growth' of trees? Sure, why not? They tend to grow if just left to themselves, and mostly bring no harm.
'Growth' of communities? I'm all for it! (I think? What does that mean??)
Cultural 'growth'? What does that look like?
Highly unspecified 'growth' of the 'economy'? Um, what is that for, again?

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 10:14:50 AM EST
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Re: LQD: Camara revisited (4.00 / 2)

Any growth, apparently. I believe trees depend on compound interest or money creation or usury to grow. I'm unclear on the details.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 10:17:30 AM EST
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Colman, Colman, Colman - (4.00 / 4)

Trees do not "depend on compound interest or money creation or usury to grow", silly bunny. I don't know where to go to find a link, but let me assure you that the trees are going to do alright in many regions, whether or not we, and our economic systems, exist.

You seem to be the resident anti-socialism member, yes? Might be interesting to read how you intend to solve the present and future environmental/economic problems on the basis of market response and individual behavior, if that's your cause. Maybe you have, and I've missed it - let me know, please.

melo - brilliant piece, as usual. Take heart, put them panels up, prepare the garden, organize.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 06:14:04 PM EST
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Re: Colman, Colman, Colman - (none / 1)

You seem to be the resident anti-socialism member, yes?

Yup, that's me: warrior for the free-markets, fighting a crusade against socialism. Famous for it around these parts.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 06:24:13 PM EST
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Re: Colman, Colman, Colman - (4.00 / 4)

Maybe he has "anti-social" mixed up with "anti-socialism?"

:)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 06:29:04 PM EST
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Re: Colman, Colman, Colman - (none / 1)

That would explain it, I suppose. I mean, we're talking about a man who thinks I'm a rabbit, apparently.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 06:44:37 PM EST
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My bad - sorry. (4.00 / 2)

But I'm still curious about your 'ideology'. I'm extrapolating from articles and comments by you, and I may be off by 180 degrees for all that I actually know.

Is it fair to say that you challenge statements and viewpoints, a la NNadir or ormondotvos? If so, good work.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 07:48:13 PM EST
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Re: LQD: Camara revisited (none / 1)

Plenty of growth: but in Value, not claims over Value created by banks out of fresh air.

And that Value comes in many forms: not least Happiness.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Dec 6th, 2007 at 07:20:28 PM EST
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