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This Perrson fella sounds like an interesting guy...I appreciate his candor!!!

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by whataboutbob on Tue Mar 20th, 2007 at 10:54:50 AM EST
He appears completely open with Fichtelius, whom he apparently trusted immensely. Fichtelius was by the way scandalised in 2002 (?) when it was revealed that this documentary was in the making and Fichtelius was head of the election coverage team at svt (public service tv). He was kicked sideways to some other job withtin the same house.

Anyway, through this documentary Persson gets a last minute in the spotlight before disappearing from the public stage. My impression is that the documentary confirms my impression of someone extremely self-centered. One episode to illustrate: Persson has put his minister of finance up as the fall-guy for some unpopular decision and then when it turned up to be really impopular withdrawn the proposition by blaming the minister of finance. That is all old news that was covered at the time. What is new is that Persson view his minister's resignation as an attack on himself.

I see "people resign to hurt me" as a bit self-centered, though not as baad as "people kill themselves to hurt us" which was heard from some american official after a suicide-attempt at Guantanamo.

And it sure is interesting to get this inside perspective. Generally I must say the whole political world is worse then I imagined it (and I thought I was cynical).

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Mar 20th, 2007 at 05:18:12 PM EST
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someone, thanks for doing this. It is interesting.

I don't take the political world as "worse." Instead, I think that we have to realize that politics is the dimension of our social lives in which people get together to cooperate. They cooperate (we hope) to change things for the better. Sometimes that means that some dumb things have to happen as well...why? because there are always going to be some dumb or selfish people sitting at the bargaining table. Locke's optimism that all people were reasonable and able to see their long term self-interests is a little overly optimistic. Sometimes you have to sit down and work out a problem with a real jerk.

But if at least some of the problem is resolved, we're in a better situation than we were before.

And maybe that is all we can be content with...

by gradinski chai on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 02:09:53 AM EST
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One thing struck me while watching this, but I have been out of daily exposure to the Swedish language for a while now, so I don't know if it is in fact strange...

In Swedish one can quite easily do away with most pronouns in a sentence, replacing the subject with the impersonal pronoun 'one', which is quite commonly in use. The object can often just be dropped or replaced in one way or another, so we end up with something where the 'I' is quite simply gone and displaced to people in general, and the object is just assumed. This can be done, it is done, but one does have other options, it is not the only way to speak. It seems to me that Persson does this a lot. More than 'normal'. I was trying to render it in English with somewhat idiosyncratic translations. Like this one, where we start with 'he' and 'I', and then quickly proceeds to depersonalised statements:

Göran Person: I noticed that he was uncertain, going up to the podium. And this is not unimportant as a signal, to me. That one notices quickly when one has socialised. It becomes a bit loose, and a bit unnecessarily stressed voice, and things like that.

Is this in any way strange, or is this actually how people speak? Is this how politicians speak? Is this an intentional effect to make us feel more like Persson is allowing us in on some dirty secrets? Does he end up doing this because he is gossiping about his colleagues and would like to distance himself (and them!) a bit from it?

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 03:15:39 AM EST
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One thinks one doesn't use "one" all to often, but one discovers one does so frequently.
I don't think I use "one" all that much when I speak, other than "det skulle man kunna tro" ("one would think that'd be the case"). When I wrote my Master's thesis last year I employed it somewhat frequently, for example "man kan konstatera..." ("one can conclude...").

To me it just sounds like Persson being Persson, though.

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by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:09:11 AM EST
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I think it is mostly a reflection of Persson being reflective. "He" and "I" is straight from the story-line, while he uses "one" when he narrates the story-line to explain it for the journalist.

I think that is quite a common way to use "one", though it is uncommon to go back in forth between story and reflection, especially in politics. It might also be indicative of Perssons background. In some dialects one uses one quite a bit.

I had a swedish teacher who considered it sloppy to use one and tried to get us to stop using it. This would indicate that it is quite common, but not considered proper swedish, which could be why it is not normally frequent on television.

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 06:39:20 AM EST
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