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... gallium and alumina are the byproducts of the reaction, so that the gallium eloctrolysis only has to be performed once ... after the allow has split the water into hydrogen and oxygen, you are basically left at the end of the Bayer process, with gallium and alumina.

Whether this is better than straight electrolysis does not depend on how much energy it takes to make the aluminum alloy when recycling the alumina and gallium ... it depends on how much of that energy is recovered when water is added to the alloy to split off the hydrogen.

But it should be noted that it has to beat electrolysis by a good long way to be better than closed-cycle modular pumped storage hydro for something like storing off-peak and strong-wind power from wind power ... starting up a hydro system (either in the downhil discharge mode or the uphill recharge mode) is something that can be done quite quickly ... indeed, if the pumps are running, increasing or decreasing their speed can pretty much be done in real time. Its harder to imagine cranking up a smelter process with a couple of minutes notice because there was a gust of wind over Lake Erie.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat May 19th, 2007 at 12:14:26 PM EST
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Thanks for the additional detail.

The only reason I can see for implementing this process is to ride the Hydrogen Economy boondoggle.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 19th, 2007 at 12:18:46 PM EST
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... because of the hydrogen economy boondoggle, hence the comparison to the artificially low hurdle of being better than gaseous hydrogen transport and stored to feed hydrogen fuel cells.

That doesn't mean I am 100% against boondoggles ... I just want the boondoggles to be 30% or less than the real renewable energy and energy efficiency research and development. The real R&D will have such a big payoff that it can carry 30% political overhead with breaking a sweat.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat May 19th, 2007 at 12:33:15 PM EST
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Yeah, it's a boondoggle but you never know what's going to come out of research and, more important, when it's going to be useful.

If it wasn't for the Haber-Bosch process originally done to make artificial fertilizer millions of people wouldn't have died in and from World War I!

(OK, not the best example in the world.)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun May 20th, 2007 at 11:43:16 PM EST
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Yes, the research is cool if you're a chemist, but the press release is self-serving, and an "amazing breakthrough" towards a boondoggle is still a boondoggle. Good for Purdue, maybe they can milk the federal budget with stuff like this and invest the preceeds in developing their university.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 21st, 2007 at 05:06:46 AM EST
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