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Well I'd need to rifle your computer for the plans then ;-)

as for the cooling problem, can you vent the heat produced into the walls? or out through the floor, build yourself some underfloor heating using some form of exhaust venting?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 08:43:26 AM EST
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If I do build a powered exhaust, I want to blow it at my feet.  Lot of winter around here so a footwarmer is always welcome.  I have the idea that I have about as much heat to deal with as a 100w bulb.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"
by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 08:49:28 AM EST
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if you open up your mac's case there's probably a power socket for running a case fan to aid in cooling,mount a low speed pc fan at the top of your desk, and run some  trunking down to your feet from the exhaust side of the fan (make it flexible pipe and you can throw the excess heat somewhere else in the summer)

it would of course mean cutting the mounting hole in your desk.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 09:01:36 AM EST
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Because I have some room in the desk, I would probably mount a power strip inside and plug the fan in there rather than modify the Mac case.  My problem is not how to modify the desk (I have already done some of that) but where to find a fan that is extra quiet and can be wired with a heat sensitive switch.  I'll get to it soon.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"
by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:31:57 PM EST
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What you need is to get a fanless computer, with a processor that doesn't waste power. Such things do exist.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:36:28 PM EST
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but even fanless machines tend to produce enough heat to move them out of sensible operating temperature ranges if left in a small cupboard for too long.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:43:53 PM EST
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I presume if it's vented properly that wouldn't be an issue?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:49:03 PM EST
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not usually, as long as you can shift enough air through the venting, (top and bottom to allow cold in as well)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 02:38:34 PM EST
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As a Mac guy, I have followed the heat management issues that have been so important, they have dictated corporate policy.  The reason that Apple dropped IBM for Intel is that IBM either could or would not come up with a more energy-efficient chip.  The G5s had 11 fans to manage the heat in a dualie,  When Apple switched to Intel, the same case that held the G5 could now hold 16 gigs of physical RAM, and 3 Terabytes of hard disc storage because there are fewer fans and dramatically smaller heat sinks.

My G4 has a pretty noisy fan but it is nothing compared to the late G4s that were called "wind tunnels" by their critics.  Apple actually put a version of my CPU in a laptop.  But I have three hard drives and I assume heat is probably a bad thing for electrical componets (I still remember tubes) so I am being careful.  I'll probably over-engineer something, if the past is a guide.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 at 04:48:30 AM EST
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coolermaster.com is a good source for ultra quiet fans, the low voltage heat detection thingumies, i'll leave to you

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:42:28 PM EST
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thanks

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"
by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:45:47 PM EST
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One of the best source of information on the topic is SPCR:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/

And check the forums they're quite friendly:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/

To get an efficient PC first thing you'll need an efficient power supply (PSU) and that means building your own PC since no brand name PC uses a really good PSU. By good here means high power efficiency meaning both lower elctrivity bill and less useless heat to evacuate hence more silent PC so every percent count :).

by Laurent GUERBY on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 at 04:58:07 PM EST
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The problem with this is he's a Mac user, so it tends to be all non standard parts (although perhaps this will change with the new mac hardware)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jul 21st, 2007 at 04:05:31 AM EST
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