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Interesting catch, m. Have you spent any time in Hong Kong? I would be interested to hear from anyone else who has spent time there, and can tell us their thoughts about the changes and differences.

Thanks for this!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia

by whataboutbob on Mon Jul 2nd, 2007 at 07:22:49 AM EST
thanks.  No, I haven't even been to HK.  I am studying Chinese though.

I've known about this for years, but this 10th anniversary b.s. about the Chinese in HK lacking democracy is turning my stomach.

Chris Patten was rewarded for his hatchet job in HK by being made EU commissioner.

What I would like to know is how sincere are the pro-democracy dissenters in HK?  Will they be rewarded when they leave as well?  Are they  naive?  Or do they really believe that the Chinese lack a will to fulfill their promises?

Even Patten said recently that the Chinese had been on their best behaviour in HK.  

by zoe on Mon Jul 2nd, 2007 at 08:20:02 AM EST
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Interesting diary, mmmm. There has been some buzz on the internet about the 10 year anniversery, but this information I have not seen and I have not been aware of it.
by Fran on Mon Jul 2nd, 2007 at 01:24:01 PM EST
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Yeah, "hypocrisy" doesn't even begin to describe it. Of course the ultimate hypocrisy (well, at least to me) is saying there's no democracy under China, when the UK told 6 million people they were being handed over to China whether they liked it or not.

I can't add much to your post other than: There is a dedicated pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong. There is also a larger pro-democracy and pro-individual and press freedom streak in the population at large, if the protests against Article 23 were any indication. While fears that Beijing would just roll right over the Basic Law and dismantle HK haven't materialized, Beijing and Tung Chee Hwa (chosen by Beijing) were supportive enough of Article 23 that I think a lot of people in HK have remained wary of just how Beijing might try to treat them. I don't think the pro-democracy movement's being naive, but then again, I'm not in HK-- I have to rely on the news and anecdotal reports.

If anyone's lurking out there who's in HK or from HK, please, tell us how things are going.

On top of this, one of my friends, raised in HK, said a big problem was that a lot of Chinese companies doing business in HK felt they did not have to honor contracts. They'd sign them and then just ignore them. (How this situation has progressed, whether it's improved or worsened, I don't know.) While that seems like a business issue only, if it was as widespread as she made it seem, I can imagine that it did not make it any easier to trust the Chinese government.

(Disclaimer: I'm not Chinese, I've never been to Hong Kong, I'm just obsessed with it. And I will get there. Someday. I've applied for jobs there, really.)

by lychee on Mon Jul 2nd, 2007 at 02:51:48 PM EST
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thank you very much for your comment.

I like a lot of things Chinese myself.  

by zoe on Mon Jul 2nd, 2007 at 02:56:22 PM EST
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