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I'm sure this idea has been brought up on Eurotrib at some point in the past, though I mention it here because it's a new thought to ME, anyway, so:

One way of getting people to reduce their water/gas/electricity use would be to determine a "mean" usage for a household based on the number of occupants, period (NOT square footage or anything else.)  Then if a household used less than the mean, they would pay a smaller rate for that useage (gallons, KwH, etc) but if they used more than that average, they would pay a higher rate, and if they used a LOT more than the average, they would pay a much higher rate for it.

Same thing should apply to car size.  I know in some places people have to pay a tax on their vehicles based on the weight of them, and this should be universal as well, I think.

(We've gotten our electrical consumption down to about 700 KwH per month.  I don't even know if that's very good.)

Nothing new, I suppose, but please don't troll rate me.

Karen in Austin

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Jul 8th, 2007 at 11:33:19 AM EST
(We've gotten our electrical consumption down to about 700 KwH per month.  I don't even know if that's very good.)

700 kWh a month? Well, it's high. In Europe, 3500 kWh a year (slightly below 300 kWh a month) is considered a rule-of-the-thumb household consumption, though I know that the US average is something likje the double. But maybe you aren't average -- how many persons, how many and how big televisions, do you have AC or electric heating?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jul 8th, 2007 at 01:17:53 PM EST
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We have electric air conditioning (a term which really means "cooling" here, as there's not a lot of need for heating) and we keep the thermostat at 79 degrees F when at home.  We have one 32" screen tv.  We added insulation to the "attic" (not much attic in our house, just a bare crawlspace).  There's a ceiling fan in every room. Almost every light bulb in the house is a compact fluorescent, and we turn the lights out when not in use.  

Our house is 1600 square feet, but the guest bedroom is closed off from the cooling when not in use.  We have a large freezer that helps preserve all the things we grow in our garden, and things we get at a good price at farmers' markets.  It supposedly uses 670 KwH per year, according to the label.  There are just two of us living here, though we get lots of visitors and the grandchildren are here a lot.

The usage is lower in "winter" when the cooling is not  as necessary as during the rest of the year, and we heat and cook with natural gas, though we probably don't turn the heat on more than 10 days during the whole winter.

Though not a mechanic by trade, my husband loves to work on autos and motorcycles and to build things and is the guy everyone turns to when they have car/mc trouble, and many of his tools are powered... maybe that accounts for some of the consumption?  And the windows on our little 1950's house are not double-glazed, but we can't afford to replace them just now, so that might be where we lose cooling.  

I'll be keeping an eye on suggestions in all the diaries, though, and other sites, for ways to bring the usage down.  Thanks for the flow of information!

Karen in Austin

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 09:06:19 AM EST
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has been suggested in the Netherlands - and immediately scoffed at - but there are now agencies who offer the service to determine a house's energy usage and report back with recommendations.

Your thought seems to determine what is nowadays a good standard for energy usage - which opens a whole extra can of worms. It may have been suggested before, but surely sensible. I will be busy developing the spreadsheet further, looking for other material and querying other people to do likewise. If there isn't a standard yet, let's develop one.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 02:45:50 AM EST
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hi nomad, thanks for this great diary.

are the pix fixed? still not coming through, is it a dialup thang?

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 05:35:48 AM EST
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are coming through here, I only added two pictures: one of my heater and the one on the very end. I think some admin mojo was already released to fix the problems during the weekend - my thanks to those Powers That Be (whomever they are).
by Nomad (Bjinse) on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 06:18:48 AM EST
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