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Re: Stories and reality (4.00 / 3)
Nah, I'm a reality snob.

More seriously, reiki has at least got the placebo effect going for it.

Astrology has more of the attributes of religion or mythology really: any value it has is pretty indirect.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 06:02:29 AM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (4.00 / 6)
LOL, about myself for being here and defending Astrology. If somebody had told me 30 years ago, I would do this today, I would have pointed my finger.

At that time I was teaching big seminars and everytime there were 2-4 people asking me what I think of astrology. I would have loved to say (love the word afew used) piffle! But somehow I felt it was a bad idea. So I started learning astrology to have the prove that it is piffle. Well, I am still learning and am still fascinated by it. However, I would never use astrology to predict the future or make investments with it. :-)

What did learning astrology give me?

It teached me to think in visual, symbolic, 3D, network-thinking. Something that opened up a new world to me.

It helped me to look at my self. I was always fascinated by the question who am I? But found it difficult to think about that. Astrology helped to take on puzzle piece at a time, like for example looking at the combination of Mars in the chart. Then look it up and as is what they say true about me. If I did feel it was not true, I would ask but then how am I different from that. And so piece by piece I become more aware of my strengths and weaknesses.

And I also found after a one year course of psycholocical tests at the University, that a astrology is able to give just as good a profile of a person as do some of the tests. Now you can interpret that however you want to. :-)

Okay, this just the short version.

by Fran on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 06:23:59 AM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (none / 1)
Fran, what type of seminars were you teaching?
by zoe on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 06:25:39 AM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (4.00 / 2)
Mental Training, at that time the Silva Methode! Boy looks like today I have to come out of the closet! :-)
by Fran on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 06:29:32 AM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (none / 1)
Interesting stuff.  
by zoe on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 06:33:20 AM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (none / 1)
mmmm, I wanted to send you an e-mail, but your adress does not seem to work. Could you send me a mail to my adress - mine should work. :-)
by Fran on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 07:58:16 AM EST
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silva method (4.00 / 2)
Blimey, I did silva like a zillion years ago, well 25 but it feels like a zillion.

I never had much use for the tools, but I always found the ideas about mind levels useful.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 10:48:50 AM EST
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Re: silva method (4.00 / 2)
Well, that was about that long ago! But you know those tools are really helpful if you use them, you don't even have to believe in them to work. :-)

You remember who you took the course with?

by Fran on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 10:57:43 AM EST
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Re: silva method (none / 1)
John Newman I think

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 11:06:38 AM EST
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Re: silva method (none / 1)
Yes, I can remember him, he was fun.
by Fran on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 03:17:36 PM EST
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Re: silva method (none / 1)
I can't even remember the tools and I threw about the booklet when I was emptying my flat this year.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 11:07:42 AM EST
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Re: silva method (none / 1)
Well, if you want a reminder of the basics, let me know.
by Fran on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 03:18:36 PM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (4.00 / 4)
Which is roughly what I meant by "indirect benefits". That its narrative is poppycock doesn't mean that there is no wisdom encoded in its practices.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 06:45:46 AM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (none / 1)
Must you keep expressing what I regard as rare and insightful opinions of mine?
You're eroding my sense of isolation.

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by technopolitical on Thu Aug 23rd, 2007 at 03:34:15 AM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (none / 1)
But maybe the poppycock narrative is necessary to get the benefits?

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by A swedish kind of death on Thu Aug 23rd, 2007 at 12:35:49 PM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (none / 1)
Depends: if the benefits are pure placebo effect then probably, but if there's real knowledge hidden in there then probably not.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Aug 23rd, 2007 at 12:39:20 PM EST
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Re: Stories and reality (none / 1)
any value it has is pretty indirect.

some of the best things are like that, i've found...

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 08:16:09 PM EST
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