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There appears to be a gender bias in these discussions that reflects a certain problem with ET. ET needs to get in touch with its feminine side ;-)

Helen can referee, and I mean that seriously. Helen is the only one of us to have experienced what it is like to have been both genders. That is a fantastic insight, admittedly seen through a haze of beer accompanied by hearing damage.

"Focus and priority" is what afew me duck is always telling me. Focus on what? Prioritise what?

An army marches on its stomach.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 04:47:54 PM EST
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My use of poppycock to describe astrology was possibly ill-advised. I should have said that I can find no possible scientific explanation.

Neither do I have one for acupuncture, but there is evidence that it works - and psychosomatic effects are as important as any other effects. If they work.

I do have a detailed chart reading from about 1978 that proved quite accurate - even ignoring possible generalizations. I also a have chiromantic reading done in 1971 by Ben Paul, that has proved remarkably perceptive - two daughters and their characters described 20 years in advance.

But I also have found Bob Dylan quite predictive.

Energy is a vital subject, but it exists as a problem within a wider context. What are we fighting for? Why do we want to solve the problem? These are questions that can be approached from different philosphical paths, and all are equally valid imo.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 05:00:09 PM EST
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Certainly won't argue with you about there being bias.  

But I get the impression you think certain qualities, traits, ideas, are either 1) a result of one's gender or 2) have genders of their own.  I don't know where I stand on that.  I think that often men and women experience the world differently, but often as a result of social norms.  So do we assign ways of seeing the world a gender because we think it might be dangerous for men to stray from their day jobs or for women to have too much power?  Do we assign them genders as a way of judging them (rational v. irrational)?  Last time I checked, men and women had the same capacity for rational thought and for irrational feeling.  They are just encouraged to express them differently.  Still, the day my brother stops falling madly in love with every girl he meets and calling me at 3 am to talk about it, and the day my girlfriend gives up engineering as her profession and political science as her hobby, I'll be a bit more open to the idea that a person's perspective is implicitly gender-based.


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 05:05:54 PM EST
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Social norms are very influential. But the fact remains that males and females have different proportions of drugs running through them. There is a quantifiably different effect resulting from the release of estrogen or testosterone - to note the key biochemical difference. Ask Helen. There are many other semi-hormones that are less easily placed prominently either side of the male/female physiological divide.

My belief system agrees with the yin-yang symbology that the uniting of male and female is what is needed to make the perfect homeostatic world. I am not sure that it depends in implicity, but it is surely the best fit with evolutionary principles.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 05:22:45 PM EST
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Hormones?  I've been a guinea pig in one hormone experiment after another.  Nothing so radical as Helen's.  But enough to induce severe vomiting and nervous breakdowns.

Through it all, my way of seeing the world did not change.  Fortunately, medicine did.
 

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 05:29:42 PM EST
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Doctors- huh! Whadda they know ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 05:40:26 PM EST
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_perfect homeostatic world. _

i was taught that was the definition of death!

from free growth and chaotic change emerges relative order.

absolute order would be death too.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Aug 21st, 2007 at 08:14:15 PM EST
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It is a dynamic equilibrium state in either an open or closed system.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 at 02:17:48 AM EST
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Now that's a lucky brother. Not only does he fall in love a lot but he gets to talk to you about it.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 at 08:38:03 AM EST
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A gender bias ?? Most people who've studied this area believe there are more differences within the genders than between them. There are many aspects to personality that might be posited as tending stereotypically male or female and we can all be placed at different places on each continuum. So within each individual there will be "female" traits and "male" traits that blend together to make the uniqueness of the individual.

Of course, men will tend towards taking stereotypical male traits and women female ones, but it is anything but a black/white position.

Whether each of these is cultural or innate is open to question. To my mind, there are innate aspects, but these reflect as potentials that cultural opportunities can expoit or deny. You might say I am innately female, but culturally male. It makes for a bittersweet experience.

However, as for something concretely experiential, I explained something of this in this diary a year ago.

As to being a referee, thank you for the offer of promotion but I'm not sure there's that much to do that can't be done by honest appreciation on each side. However, whatever my qualities of understanding maleness, experience has taught me that women generally are uncomfortable with/do not accept that I can speak for the female experience. I have no wish to irritate the women of this blog with my assumptions and so must refuse.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 at 08:45:45 AM EST
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You'll just have to wet your whistle in some other manner ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 at 09:56:41 AM EST
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