A heart of darkness? | 34 comments (34 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

I wish I could vote...

by Plutonium Page (page dot vlinders at gmail dot com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2007 at 02:59:22 AM EST
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I hate immigration and nationality law (4.00 / 2)

I am becoming increasingly convinced of the need to extend the voting franchise to all residents regardless of nationality. I read once in El Pais that this is actually favoured by a majority of Spaniards in opinion polls.

Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK? — The War Nerd

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2007 at 03:07:25 AM EST
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A thousand 4's to you if I could. n/t (none / 1)

by Plutonium Page (page dot vlinders at gmail dot com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2007 at 03:36:57 AM EST
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Re: A heart of darkness? (none / 1)

Page, you're married to a citizen... It can't be all that hard to get citizenship yourself, or is it?

Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK? — The War Nerd

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2007 at 03:15:52 AM EST
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It takes 5 years to get citizenship (none / 1)

So I guess it's not that hard, I'm just impatient, and wanted to vote last November.

Also, if I get Dutch citizenship, I am required to give up my American citizenship, which means I couldn't vote in the US :-(

That's not cool. I need to be able to vote in US elections, for obvious reasons. Gotta keep the evil (GOP) at bay.

by Plutonium Page (page dot vlinders at gmail dot com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2007 at 03:36:13 AM EST
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Re: It takes 5 years to get citizenship (none / 1)

Is it a Dutch requirement that you give up your US citizenship?

US State Department: Dual Nationality

... In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.
Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. ...

Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK? — The War Nerd

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 8th, 2007 at 03:44:44 AM EST
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Re: It takes 5 years to get citizenship (4.00 / 2)

There are some exceptions, but basically the current (and the previous) Dutch government wants to "strengthen the ties" of the immigrants to the Dutch state by not allowing dual citizenship. This is how they explain the policy, anyway.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Sat Sep 8th, 2007 at 06:18:36 AM EST
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A heart of darkness? | 34 comments (34 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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