Well, normal students in Germany get only loans from the gov't, when their parents are really short of money. I spoke of phd students, who already have master degrees.

And metal workers in Germany are as well paid very well, when they are working in big companies. But most people don't work in big companies or not in well unionised sectors with mostly permanent staff, that needs specialist skills.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers