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and like your interpretation, but my (long and extensive) experience of reading English language media commentary on France does not incline me to  believe your intepretation is more correct than mine.

You have no idea how extensive AND intensive the French-bashing is in the media until you actually start noting things down, which is a dreary thing to do.

Maybe one day I will do it, just for the sake of demonstration.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Nov 13th, 2008 at 05:25:33 PM EST
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I doubt if anyone here will deny how extensive French-bashing is in Anglo-American media; this does not justify seeing it in even innocuous comments like those of liberal Democrat Keillor. Why would someone who features 2 French intellectuals in his US radio programme in the past week turn on the French - allegedly ? Now three of us find your interpretation quite implausible - unfortunately it's a bit late in the diary comments - but does ANYONE else find Jerome's interpretation plausible? Weird.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Nov 13th, 2008 at 05:40:43 PM EST
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His comments are innocuous in that he does not specifically intend to bash the French, but he does repeat, casually, things that are "bashing" and thus gives them additional credit.

It's just like the left calling the Paulson bailout "socialism" for the rich. Even as it criticises the bailout, it validates the use of "socialism" as an insult.

Keillor validates the use of the French as a target, and as a knee-jerk anti-American grup.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Nov 13th, 2008 at 06:11:25 PM EST
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You've lost your mind.  It's official.

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Thu Nov 13th, 2008 at 06:13:55 PM EST
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But you got it WRONG this time.  You are looking for things and finding things that aren't there.  Russia bashing in the press is everywhere too, but I don't assume everyone is bashing Russia. Or is it just easier to lump all people into one group you don't like and presume they are guilty?

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Thu Nov 13th, 2008 at 05:48:08 PM EST
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but they still repeat Russia-bashing stories, even if not on purpose. It's not on purpose, but it's still carelessness.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Nov 13th, 2008 at 06:12:34 PM EST
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Do you realize that Garrison Keillor is a humorist?  Not a serious pundit or commentator?  He's sort of the Mark Twain of the late 20th - early 21st century.  

I'm just having a hard time thinking that he fits into the category of serious "English language media commentary on France".

I'm sure I don't notice it as much as you but I really do notice French bashing in the media.  And ... unlike my compatriots in this thread, I don't mind if you want to call each and every instance out of even borderline France bashing out.  I like to do that with lawyer bashing :)

by Maryb2004 on Thu Nov 13th, 2008 at 07:36:38 PM EST
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