Kosovo declares independence | 190 comments (189 topical, 1 editorial, 0 hidden)

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?? It sounds like you're confusing Bosnia with Kosovo. Mitrovica is in Kosovo, in its northern part. Those are Kosovo Serbs. The Bosnian Serbs who want to secede are in Republika Srpska, in Bosnia and Hercegovina.

And if you're not confusing the two, even if there's a lot of anti-Serb violence in northern Kosovo, RS would just have to watch their border with Kosovo. I just can't see Kosovo Albanians invading Bosnia.... As far as I know, the claims for secession in RS are based more on just getting away, rather than any threats of violence from the Federation side. Have there even been any threats from the Federation? My understanding was that the tensions being reported in Bosnia now are more politicians hissing at each other than anything else.

Am I the only one who keeps thinking of Star Trek when discussing Bosnia?

by lychee on Sun Feb 17th, 2008 at 02:49:01 PM EST
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Re: Kosovo declares independence (4.00 / 2)

No, I don't have them confused.

The similarity is all about the performance of so-called peace-keeping troops.

I know the Bosnians are integrated better, but for the long haul, the creation of ethnically pure states all around Bosnia will eventually cause that alliance to split apart. The example of Mitrovica will be powerful because it will show that the EU and the West are incapable of protection. Look at Cyprus. NATO will not move militarily unless it suits its interest.

by Upstate NY on Sun Feb 17th, 2008 at 03:27:45 PM EST
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Oh, so you were talking about using perceived fear as an excuse to secede, rather than real threats. Now I understand your post.

At this point, I just want whatever happens to be as peaceful as possible, be it Mitrovica staying with Kosovo, seceding and rejoining Serbia, etc.

by lychee on Sun Feb 17th, 2008 at 03:46:54 PM EST
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As far as I know, the claims for secession in RS are based more on just getting away, rather than any threats of violence from the Federation side.
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C'mon please don't try to sell this stupid story where USA generously helped Albanians just because of the treats from "federation"...none here is that naive. Let alone that Albanians wouldn't dare to try anything if USA didn't arm and trained them militarily and promised them to bombard Serbia if necessary.
Bosnian Serbs now have legitimate right to proclaim independence and not just Bosnian Serbs. Who ever is not happy with in borders now have right to go. Welcome to a new "free" world. Bosnian Serbs have not just right they are properly organized in any way to do it cause they luckily never took seriously "state" of Bosnia and Hercegovina.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein

by vbo on Tue Feb 19th, 2008 at 01:09:42 AM EST
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C'mon please don't try to sell this stupid story where USA generously helped Albanians just because of the treats from "federation"

Huh?? What are you talking about? As far as I know, the Federation (you know, the other entity in BiH) never threatened the Albanians.

Upstate NY's point was that if troops can't protect Serbs in Northern Kosovo, then RS might claim that they need to secede from BiH because of some imagined "threat" from the Federation side. I had originally misunderstood him/her and thought his/her post was talking about actual threats having been made by one BiH entity toward the other. Upstate NY explained a little more and cleared it up. So I don't know where you're getting the idea that I'm trying to "sell" a story that Bosnia was threatening Albanians.

by lychee on Tue Feb 19th, 2008 at 04:30:59 AM EST
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Huh this is even better. Total misunderstanding. I am sorry I misunderstand you.
And things are actually very simple under the surface. Do not mix conflict in Bosnia and H. and conflict in Serbia in any way. These things are not comparable at all.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein

by vbo on Tue Feb 19th, 2008 at 04:40:16 AM EST
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