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Unfortunately, in my opinion, the Zapatista movement seems to have fallen on hard times.  I read an article a few days ago that described the withdrawal of another one or two hundred families from the movement.  It seems the Government bought them off with stipends of some sort and other social benefits that they could not resist.  Mexico had a long history of incorporating independent political movements into the PRI.  Now that the PRI has lost much of its preeminence, it could be that the collective other parties have learned the same technique.

Another factor, I note, is that poverty/conditions seems to have reached the point of desperation in some parts of Chiapas.  Beginning just a few years ago, I began to notice the presence of large numbers of indigenous migrants from Chiapas in Villahermosa, Tabasco.  Many were begging on the streets, something not all that common before in Villahermosa.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Wed Feb 13th, 2008 at 03:39:33 PM EST
Can you confirm this?

"Imagine all the people/ Sharing all the world" -- John Lennon
by Cassiodorus on Wed Feb 13th, 2008 at 11:16:16 PM EST
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Confirm that families are leaving the Zapatista movement or the fact that there has been an exit of Chiapas residents to Tabasco?

I can look for the news article on the families departing.  It was just a few days ago, about the same time of your post.  I almost commented then but got distracted.

Re increasing poverty in Chiapas - I don't know. The only indicator I have is the presence of people begging on the streets.  Everyone says they are from Chiapas.  The women in particular are dressed in traditional rural Mayan/indigenous garb, not something one usually sees in Tabasco anymore.

We will be returning to Mexico in March - would have already been there but for health problems.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 12:14:28 AM EST
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Here are two links (published in San Angelo and Houston, Tx newspapers for AP) to an article about the 200 family departure.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/feb/08/200-families-leave-zapatista-rebels/

http://www.congoo.com/news/2008February10/Families-Mexico-break-Zapatista-movement

Polho, Mexico - Nearly 200 families have abandoned the Zapatista rebel movement in one of its strongholds, turning to the government for aid at a time when the insurgents are complaining about the loss of outside support.

On Wednesday, each family received initial payments of $43 in a ceremony with Salvador Escobedo, a top official with the federal government's Social Development Department. The government is promising similar payments every two months, as well as a school and medical center.

The ceremony in Polho, long a backbone of the Zapatista movement, appeared to be the most prominent desertion from the insurgency since 2004, when about 400 families in the unofficial rebel capital of La Realidad broke away to accept government help, dividing the village in two.



I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 12:24:45 AM EST
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Thank you.

"Imagine all the people/ Sharing all the world" -- John Lennon
by Cassiodorus on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 01:49:03 AM EST
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The Mexicans are still screwing with Chiapas, too...

"Imagine all the people/ Sharing all the world" -- John Lennon
by Cassiodorus on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 11:41:07 AM EST
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Yes, thank you very much for this and your diary.  As one who has watched Mexico for 45 years, I believe that the country's problems need to be considered as a whole and resolved in the same manner. The conditions that led to the creation of the Zapatista movement have existed for a very long time in Mexican society, but circumstances in Chiapas (such as the degree of repression, the relative isolation of certain areas, and the homogeneity of the indigenous groups there) made it possible to seek change of their circumstance in ways not available to other regions.  People in other regions are also very poor and suffer from many of the inadequacies that characterize the indigenous peoples of Chiapas; however, the poor have little chance of bettering their circumstances.  Both the poor and small middle classes Mexico may be in for increasingly difficult times ahead as Mexico's oil reserves dwindle, violent crime increases, and the government struggles yet again to maintain its economic solvency. Major reform is the only real answer. Yet like the rest of Latin America reform is still a dream.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 05:05:00 PM EST
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