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to Number 2 I'd add thatthey seem to have missed the Ministry of defences chief scientific advisors comments

BBC NEWS | Politics | Iraqi deaths survey 'was robust'

The British government was advised against publicly criticising a report estimating that 655,000 Iraqis had died due to the war, the BBC has learnt.

Iraqi Health Ministry figures put the toll at less than 10% of the total in the survey, published in the Lancet.

But the Ministry of Defence's chief scientific adviser said the survey's methods were "close to best practice" and the study design was "robust".

Another expert agreed the method was "tried and tested".

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 08:19:26 PM EST
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Close to best practise is also what I gathered from the blogosphere.

But I'm not trying to make the case for the Lancet's report. I'd be trying to make the cranks make a case against it, because, frankly, I see no need to spend time finding thoughtful arguments against an unsupported assertion. If you go down that road, the cranks can engage in a Gish Gallop, making shit up as they go along, and you'll be left trying to refute every little detail - ceding control of the direction of the conversation.

The cranks made a claim about the state and nature of the peer-reviewed literature, and I say that if we engage them over it, we refuse to treat them as mature adults until they have backed it up. They have no claim on our time and effort as long as they're making shit up as they go along.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:51:40 AM EST
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There's a historical anecdote about a conversation between Kurchatov (father of Russian atomic program) and Lavrenti Beria (last chief of Stalin's secret police, who was personally responsible for the bomb project). When Beria tried to teach Kurchatov how do deal with some program, he got an answer: "We didn't read each other's scientific papers, but, I am afraid, for different reasons".
by Sargon on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 10:15:46 AM EST
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