My point was not comprehensive; it was just looking at the immediate relationships. It's almost always "us" that face the problems ultimately.

As to John Williams' comment, I was just musing. Actually, I was amused that he would entertain the idea of co-ops or regulation, given his basic philosophy. Then he was sort-of emphatic that we were submerged in quick-shit. No, I don't agree with him about the future - just the present.

paul spencer