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Not sure ghow marginal they are in Wales and Scotland. Any thoughts? Anyhow, the Scots with all that oil and gas may also have Norwegian reasons to not want to join.
Basic point is that I wouldn't want to tar Scotland and Wales with the same brush that the English so roundly deserve to be tarred with. Even the putatively "Europhile" English (see Tony Blair) aren't pro-European in any real sense. De Gaulle was is and always will have been right to not want them in. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
And as in anything, there's always exception -- you will be doing great disservice to the English who are supportive of the EU, eg, half of my family. So, let's cool it, shal we?
I'll be joining you shortly... The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
Just note that there seems to be more than a bit of a problem with most English and their feeling of belonging to Europe. And, I'm sure, many of those English who now reside in France could always ask for an EU passport if ever their home country were to leave it. As long as they cheer for the right 6 nations team. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
Note that the current UK Labour Government is run by a lot of Scots led no less by a Scot.
Somehow I'm not sanguine about how pro-European they will be left ot their own devices... The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
Scotman Blair had 10 years to his own devices and see where that got Britain on Europe.
If Blair is a Jock he's been throughly detribalised, though it's likely true he's unpopular enough to qualify for one of these passports Salmond will be issuing before long. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
As long as they cheer for the right 6 nations team
As long as they cheer for the right 6 nations team.
Well that's me stuffed then. being born English. What happens if the more sever Welsh Nats take over decide to expell all English born people back to england and it's already left the EU? Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
That'd be up to the Welsh. Maybe require 'em to learn the language?
Plus, cheer for the right 6 nations team. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
There are strong sovereignist Eurosceptics on the continent, too - from Austria to Flemish Belgium. And then there is the separate breed of Nordic Euroscepticism.
If you practice No True Scotsman-ism, you'll end up with 'Europe' as no more than the original EU-6. Or even less: in France, Le Pen is not so marginal, and you can add former Chevènement members and regrettably not a few hard-leftists to that. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
you'll end up with 'Europe' as no more than the original EU-6.
I dunno, I think we could properly add Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Finland, Sweden, Austria, maybe Denmark, probably Greece and even most of the "New European" (tm) nations for sure (some notable exceptions) and we'd end up with a proper Europe.
But the EU-6 would have been much easier to make a properly social Europe than the one which was expanded to include the Brits. That goes without saying.
And make it a properly social Europe and you won't find any lefties opposed to it anymore. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
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