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You should really stop confusing the majority of the English populace with the British political and media elite. We showed you enough evidence in Eurobarometer polls and so on.

There are strong sovereignist Eurosceptics on the continent, too - from Austria to Flemish Belgium. And then there is the separate breed of Nordic Euroscepticism.

If you practice No True Scotsman-ism, you'll end up with 'Europe' as no more than the original EU-6. Or even less: in France, Le Pen is not so marginal, and you can add former Chevènement members and regrettably not a few hard-leftists to that.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Mar 6th, 2008 at 06:40:09 AM EST
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you'll end up with 'Europe' as no more than the original EU-6.

I dunno, I think we could properly add Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Finland, Sweden, Austria, maybe Denmark, probably Greece and even most of the "New European" (tm) nations for sure (some notable exceptions) and we'd end up with a proper Europe.

But the EU-6 would have been much easier to make a properly social Europe than the one which was expanded to include the Brits. That goes without saying.

And make it a properly social Europe and you won't find any lefties opposed to it anymore.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Thu Mar 6th, 2008 at 10:18:35 AM EST
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