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No. We should understand audiences, and use more than one way to get to them.

Of course, many here believe that there is some truth (tm) and that others truths (not yet accorded a tm) are not quite as credible. thus are some sources automatically granted credibility, while others are seen as "hacks" or "liars".

I'm seeing a lot of that. Idees recues in action, challenges to them increasingly one-sided. Not just for the right, I see.

Just like you putting those words in my mouth and putting your intent in my motivations. Far, far off the mark.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Mon Apr 7th, 2008 at 11:03:54 AM EST
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Maybe if we on the left had a few provocative polemicists like Steyn writing for our side, we'd start making some progress in the battle for ideas. Our problem is we require ourselves to be fair, reasonable and hew to what we think of as "the truth" (tm)

Explain what this is meant to mean? Explain how you suggest we overcome our "problem"? Explain what a "provocative polemicist" like Steyn - except on "our" side - would say?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Apr 7th, 2008 at 11:10:04 AM EST
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Well, Joffe and Trotsky sure knew how to engage in polemics.

There's a good Irishman going today too, name Alexander Cockburn. Don't agree with him all the time but appreciate what he does, unlike many of the so-called reasonable left.

But alas, the "reasonable left" doesn't do polemics...

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Mon Apr 7th, 2008 at 11:16:19 AM EST
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But alas, the "reasonable left" doesn't do polemics...

So go write some.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Apr 7th, 2008 at 12:15:15 PM EST
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What do you think I try to do most of the time?

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
by r------ on Mon Apr 7th, 2008 at 12:22:00 PM EST
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Your polemics are not badly received either.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 7th, 2008 at 12:33:41 PM EST
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I'd agree with that suggestion. The liberal left could do with somebody who argues progressive ideas, not in the apologetic hand-wringing of numerous sub-clauses most commonly seen, but by creating an emotional message that creates a willingness to listen.

Obama is doing that, Edwards did that to a lesser extent. I don't think the idea is to lie or cheat so much as to be populist.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 7th, 2008 at 11:34:36 AM EST
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I think he's asking for someone to call the business class what it is. Leftists are good at writing postmodern essays and smug attacks on the people they should be trying to appeal to. Neither of these work. Jerome is very good at refuting neolib dogma with simple and very effective writing. A person with Jerome's skill set and a populist, "mad as hell" style is about right.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Apr 7th, 2008 at 07:03:18 PM EST
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