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Muse - Map Of The Problematique - 04:15
(I can't decide if this is 4/4 or something more complex in the first two minutes)
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Back to the Muse track, the four beat kicks in clear at 0:40 when the snare starts hitting the three--One two THREE four One two THREE four--
Then the singer starts up (reminds me of Bono!)--
And then a great drum flourish at 2:11--I wonder what it would sound like if they'd kept that rhythm through the song--and dropped the drums while he was singing, just used the opening keyboard riff...heh!
Towards the end the drummer starts whacking a cymbal on the first beat: CRASH and boom and WHACK and boom--
ABout 3:56 he starts doing things with his hi-hat--but there's that snare on three (I think I'm picky about snares on three!--hard to do without slowing...something....heh....I'd call that snare on three the 'commercial' aspect of the song's sound world.)
And then the drummer gets to whack out to the end!
(On a re-listen, the drumbeat before the snare starts playing reminds me of Killing Joke)
Here's an example of the way I like a four beat: Lots going on with the bass drum, syncopation, that kinda thing, and a speedy snare on the three--or maybe I just got it all wrong!
Iggy Pop - I'm Bored (2:43)--four four kicks in at 0:16
Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
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