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whereas some of the other names never did anything tonal--or very little

That's sloppy--I'll take it back.  Really I'd like to find a few examples, but I can't until late tonight.  It's a whole musical period and I don't want to prejudice ideas--of course, they all understood tonality, so in at least one way (by not being tonal) there is tonality (the lack of something--the shape its absence creates)--ach!  I mean, I'm very happy to be corrected by those who know more about these composers and this period.

(btw, Pierre Boulez is the composer/conductor to search for--there are plenty of pieces on youtube--also interviews.)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 05:17:52 AM EST
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Thanks for describing that much already. Just curious, how crazy people can be ;-)
 
by das monde on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 05:32:20 AM EST
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Here's an explanation of Schoenberg's twelve tone method--note at 01:37 what is written on the front sheet of his Composition with Twelve Tones:

To understand the very nature of creation, one must acknowledge that there was no light before the Lord said "Let there be light".

So....religious ideas, light and dark, moral confusions...I see it growing out of that (the way I see Heidegger's philosophy caught in religious ideas put against world events--Heidegger was german, Schoenberg was austrian--there's a tortuousness I find in both--not party people; committed to ideals that were going strangely wrong--heh...that's my reading!)  

Anyways, here's the film (5:23):



Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 01:10:52 PM EST
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