After Lisbon, using EP election to strenghten EP power | 20 comments (20 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: After Lisbon, using EP election to strenghten (4.00 / 2)

One thing I have never seen is a visual map of the decision-making processes and power nodes in the EU. I don't mean an organization chart. I mean to look at it as an ecosystem of connections.

The EU decision-making is process that is hard to grasp. We could make it easier.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 03:31:34 AM EST

Re: After Lisbon, using EP election to strenghten (4.00 / 3)

I have been thinking of creating one, lately.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 03:46:37 AM EST
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Mig Map (4.00 / 2)

I would be very happy to help, as I am sure other visually literate ETers would be, as well as all system thinkers.

If it were possible to create a map that conveyed in broad strokes 'How it works' to your average citizen, I think it would be a major contribution. And it could be something that we would make open source, but branded as an ET production - another way to get ET out into the media.

Scoop doesn't have the best tools to confer on visuals, but Colman's illustrative rough sketches of principles for the photoblog show what can be done. I could envision us getting quite far in Scoop with defining the structure of such a map, but at some point designers have to go away and come up with solutions.

Would you like to open a separate diary on this at some point?

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 04:17:20 AM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 2)

The consolidated treaties are here, including the consolidated Treaty on European Union [PDF].

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 04:31:32 AM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 2)

Thank you for attempting to ruin my weekend ;-)

I imagined you providing something a little more gestalty...

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 04:47:06 AM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 2)

I just did, partly.

Missing is: a list of all the areas subject to codecision (articles 251 and 252).

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 05:32:32 AM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 3)

The useful map for citizens that I envision would show the interconnections between the main institutions (including their bureaucracies) and how these relate to the citizens in the member countries.

Our job would be to simplify and to help anyone understand the processes - 'at a glance'. People do not read Treaties (and why should they?) because they are framed in impenetrable language for legal reasons.

A well designed gestalt picture of the processes could not contain all that we need to know. But if we could come up with a basic visual representation, then that base picture could be used to overlay different ways of looking at the EU.

As examples, the same base picture could be used to show the election processes, the flow of funds, the budgets of bureaucracies, the initiatives such as REACH, inter-member trade, etc etc

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 06:00:19 AM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 3)

So for instance... say I give you

[Citizens] elect [National Government]
[Citizens] elect [European Parliament]
[National government] is represented in [European Council]
[European Council] nominates [Commission President]
[European Parliament] approves [Commission President]
[Commission President] and [European Council] nominate [European Commission]
[European Parliament] approves [European Commission]

Give me a map.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 06:06:32 AM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 2)

Give me a little time...

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 06:29:36 AM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 3)

We can start with a list of subject - action - object as in "parliament approves budget" and then turn that into a (collection of) graph(s) with arrows.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 06:00:31 AM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 2)

You did publish a decision map in a comment not so long ago, although many people find these things intimidating. This sounds like the sort of work the EU Communications Directorate should be doing anyway. Perhaps ET should apply for a grant to do it for them. Ok ok- I'm not going there, again.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 01:22:17 PM EST
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Re: Mig Map (4.00 / 2)

European Commission: Codecision Step by Step flow chart:

That's a summary of article 251 of the EC Treaty.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 01:26:00 PM EST
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