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At least Madrid has Metrosur and is still vigorously expanding its metro network into the suburbs.

Being smaller and denser than the London or Paris metro areas, the only problem would seem to be water, which is not yet the case unlike in Barcelona.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 10:22:46 AM EST
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The way Madrid is able to build a proper suburban transport system whereas Paris can't frustrates me deeply.

Another problem with the wealthy center/poor suburbs duality is that all the journalists actually live in Paris, and thus don't know anything about what the majority of the Parisian population, living in the suburbs, faces.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 10:29:43 AM EST
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It may have something to do with the structure of local and regional government. Also in the case of Barcelona as kcurie points out.

The Greater London Assembly should allow London to do a good job, too, if it can find the money.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 10:53:27 AM EST
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Governance is not the only blocking point. Political will is lacking (That's what is meant by "lacking money ; when there is a will there is a way). Pompidou did build both the RER and way to many highways around Paris.  But the French government is content with building clientelist bits of highway here and there, and lets the regional rail infrastructure rust. No mayor dares to undertake projects longer than their mandates since a town in infrastructure building mode, with dug up streets, means risking losing one's position. Metro lines are extended one station at a time, which costs less yearly, but ends up wasting money as each stop change means rebuilding maintenance workshops...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Jun 13th, 2008 at 11:05:31 AM EST
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Funny fact: 20 % of all Swedish journalist live in the very center of Stockholm, another 50 % live on Södermalm which is also very central, about 500 metres from the riksdag and royal palace.

That's not 70 % of all journalists in Stockholm, that's 70 % of all journalists in Sweden.

They live together, only marry other journalists or politicians and never meet anyone who isn't from their line of business.

Which is probably why they are so extremely insular and detached from ordinary people.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 03:42:22 AM EST
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I suppose this is why they eventually sympathize with their decision-making captors ;-)

The younger, single Finnish journalists tend to live south of downtown Helsinki. But I know quite a few married ones who have moved out to the suburbs and beyond. Provincial journalism has also survived the trend to repeating what is on the wires, and focusing instead on local events and politics.

The broadcasting channels are almost all located north of the city, and even content suppliers are spread far and wide. Though the trendy media (populated by the younger and single again) like advertising, web-production, magazines etc are often south of downtown - occupying some of the large old factories that have been refurbished for office and studio use.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jun 14th, 2008 at 04:00:20 AM EST
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