And now that the West has Karadzic | 68 comments (68 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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Mr Karadzic, 63, declared independence for Bosnian Serbs in 1991, sparking the 1992-1995 Bosnian war."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7522639.stm

What sparked the war was Alija Izetbegovic's rejection of the Vance-Owen plan signed in Lisbon by all three parties (Serbs, Croats and Muslims). The plan was wrecked by the US administration which encouraged the Muslims to play for 100% of Bosnia... through war.

Interesting how the Western propaganda machine is preparing public opinion for a forceful integration of the Bosnian Serb Republic under Muslim (US sponsored) rule.

by vladimir on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 07:15:01 AM EST

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Are you speaking about the near future?

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by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 09:07:28 AM EST
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The plan to reintegrate - or force the Serb Republic to disintegrate - has been on the tables for some time now. I would say the time frame is 2-4 years from now - earlier if the leadership of the Serb Republic capitulates or sells out (literally) and votes the "expected" changes in the constitution.

by vladimir on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:41:18 PM EST
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The war was not sparked by a single event. A confluence of factors triggered it. Karadzic and, more importantly Milosevic, certainly didn't try to discourage it as the latter had already carved up Bosnia with Tudjman in Karadjordjevo, according to Ante Markovic.
And let me emphasize here that the ICTY's possible bias has no bearing on whether this man was complicit in the murder of 8000, or whatever the final number turns out to be, people in Srebrenica. He was. There is little doubt about that.

Having said that, I think Lenin's Tomb has some valid points about his trial...

And I'm not sure if this has been posted here lately but, have you seen Karadzic's (aka Dragan Dabic) New Age Holistic Medicine website? Apparently it's real...

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:09:13 AM EST
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Thanks for all three links...

Tuđman's and Milosecić's replies to Marković (I haven't read them verbatim before), are just scary.

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by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:19:06 AM EST
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Colour me sceptical about its genuineness, its a bit of a coincidence that this website appears to have been set up two days ago as the expiry date is almost exactly a year away (Or possily a year and two days ago, but its a bit of a coincidence)

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:30:39 AM EST
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Yep, you're right:

created-date: 2008-07-22 13:25:38.000

However this site is said to be the real deal. And it was registered in May.

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by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 10:51:52 AM EST
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so the domain wasn't registered till after he was caught.

What's the link to the other site? I would think that every iffy new-age salesman is busy trying to claim that they are linked to him on the off chance that people will buy their product

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:07:38 AM EST
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http://www.psy-help-energy.com/

And the forums have been busy for a couple of days now!

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by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:11:02 AM EST
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well if you consider Midget porn "busy". ;-)

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 11:34:05 AM EST
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Heh, I was thinking more of this thread (and I could of sworn that there were two more similar threads there yesterday)...

On a side note it's a shame what happens to untended forums on the web :-)

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by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 02:45:56 AM EST
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