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One big sprawl.  So, to go to the bookstore, you had to drive, to go to the grocery store, you had to drive.

Think about this in terms of the policy debate about how to adapt to the high cost of oil.  One way to to up the mpg to sustain the sprawl model of urban development, while the other is to tackle oil use by making walking and transit an option.  

Why has the focus been on ways to make cars use less gas instead of ways to use cars less?

The reason that I bring conspicous consumption into the conversation is that it focuses on purposeful waste as a way to convey social status.  And I'm arguing that the persistence of wasteful economic behavior with auto mobiles and transportation has a lot more to do about conveying social status to others rather than any utility to accrues to the individual.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Mon Jul 7th, 2008 at 01:43:40 PM EST
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Why has the focus been on ways to make cars use less gas instead of ways to use cars less?

The train factories don't have a lobby, while the car factories do?

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 10:51:05 AM EST
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I think at least part of the reason is, that efficiency can more easily be sold as convenient. The message is, you can save the environment by purely technical solutions without any personal commitment.

And I think in Europe it is mostly not that way at all. Gas taxes are gas taxes, independent which way you are going to buy less gas.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 11:26:28 AM EST
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To be fair, anyone buying a car has the immediate option to use less gas.

Whereas going from a big sprawl to a low footprint city is not under the immediate control of the person making the decision...

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:51:26 AM EST
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And I'm arguing that the persistence of wasteful economic behavior with auto mobiles and transportation has a lot more to do about conveying social status to others rather than any utility to accrues to the individual.

Of course, consumption is a way of showing off. So what alternative do you suggest?

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 11:23:09 AM EST
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Well, showing off by having time to spend with your loved ones seems like a good way. Of course, once something becomes a way to show off, you'll have the biznizmen move in and try to biznizize it - hence the coaches and lifestyle magazines and other BS we get these years.

But when it comes to ways of showing off, I'll take lifecoaching over SUVs and SUVs over rhinocerous hunting any day of the week.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 11:31:41 AM EST
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