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The title of the diary was for a reason. I didn't want to insult you or your father or make you feel pain, but I have trouble to accept the American framing, that being a soldier is such a great service to your country. Especially with the history of MY country, obeying orders in a war isn't what I can call at all heroic.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 07:36:40 PM EST
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by an honest discussion of the Vietnam war.

I thought perhaps the title was to try to avoid the "ugly Americans" -- but wouldn't they be more likely to be of the sort we saw at the Republican convention?

At any rate -- this topic is always welcome.

Frankly, I consider the deserters, the draft dodgers and the protesters the true heroes of the Vietnam era.

If I can't rant, I don't want to be part of your revolution

by Maryscott OConnor (myleftwing@gmail.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 07:52:47 PM EST
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As a veteran of the service during Viet-Nam era (pretty pale stuff for me since I was essentially a chow-hall inspector for the air force in N. California) I am fully prepared to say there is very little heroic in most military service.  I had no intention of being a hero-or I would have stood up and gone to Canada or prison like some of my favorite people did, to their detriment, I chose a branch of the service and a job in that branch that reduced the odds as far as possible.

The most anti-war guys I knew were the guys that came back to our little midwest town and said, "DO NOT GO!"

I think Americans need to have this discussion.  I've got a nephew over in Iraq that I worry about-I hope to high heaven that he isn't considered a hero.

I would say that the guys on the helicopter that stopped the My Lai massacre were heroes, to me they qualify.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson

by NearlyNormal on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 08:03:29 PM EST
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