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when ever I saw smiling face of a solder coming from "battle" I felt sorry for him...I knew he is not normal (in his mind) any more...
You didn't "know" it - you assumed it, and it seems a bit harsh. Cf.:
http://www.files.trailblazersww2.org/division_photos_page1.htm
These US soldiers are celebrating the fall of Saarbrucken in 1945. Smiling is a pretty natural reaction, it's probably relief at still being alive - and maybe to not having to kill.
Laughing is also a way of coping in war, you might be surprised by the context of this photo:
AFGHANISTAN - MARCH 15: British soldiers celebrate the lives of fallen comrades by sharing personal stories following a memorial service March 15, 2007 in Kajaki, Afghanistan. Helmand province . British troops gathered on a mountaintop observation post to honor three British soldiers killed by Taliban attacks in Afghanistan. L/Bdr Russ Clark, L/Bdr Liam McLaughlin and Sgt. Major Mick Smith died in the first week of March, a week that saw a total of four British soldiers killed in combat operations in Helmand. (Photo by John Moore/Getty Images) http://www.daylife.com/photo/0gvo4QS5mFgPy
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0gvo4QS5mFgPy
Anecdotal photos of joy at the end of fighting only represent a few moments and are not the real-life consequences that pervade the lives of fighters and society during and after war. Most people cannot face that reality and limit their world view to what they can handle. Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
Anecdotal photos of joy at the end of fighting only represent a few moments and are not the real-life consequences that pervade the lives of fighters and society during and after war.
Obviously - did you seriously think I was using them to argue the absurd view that if they were smiling then they would be OK after the war ? (see the quotation in my comment above). My point was - pretty clearly I think - that smiling after combat was a quite understandable immediate reaction and not a sign of abnormality. The photo of Brit troops laughing at the funeral of a comrade doesn't indicate that they have been dehumanised, but that shared laughter can be a way of coping with grim circumstances, cf. Irish wakes, at which it is also the custom to share memories of the dead person, some of them humourous. Whether the Brit troops will be psychologically damaged when they return by their general experience in Afghanistan is another matter (see the quotation above again). Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
Tonight I saw on TV smiling faces of Israeli solders making "victory" signs... I never was able to understand that...and during Balkan wars of 90s when ever I saw smiling face of a solder coming from " battle" I felt sorry for him...
I was saying that in fact it is NOT hard to understand such smiling - it's relief at being out of it and being alive - and not in itself a sign that they are not "normal" - whatever that is.
Of course war can damage people - to varying degrees, but it's important to remember that not all people in the military are in the front line and not even all of those kill others. Of course, for those who do, or witness it, it can be traumatic:
A nationwide, long-term study of Vietnam veterans -- now entering its third phase -- concluded that one-third of combat soldiers returned emotionally wounded. After the 1991 Persian Gulf War, about 10 percent of the troops suffered distress from a conflict that was much briefer and less intense. Given the confusing, urban ambush-style fighting in this Iraq campaign, experts predict trauma levels closer to Vietnam's. ... Fifteen years after being discharged, the post-Vietnam study shows, 15 percent of veterans still suffered from PTSD, the most serious of trauma reactions. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3030.htm
Given the confusing, urban ambush-style fighting in this Iraq campaign, experts predict trauma levels closer to Vietnam's.
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Fifteen years after being discharged, the post-Vietnam study shows, 15 percent of veterans still suffered from PTSD, the most serious of trauma reactions.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3030.htm
It doesn't advance understanding merely to assert that all soldiers return not "normal" - especially when merely based on seeing some of them smile. Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
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