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From him I got the distinct impression that the situation in eastern Europe was hopeless and that Soviet domination would last as far as the eye could see. That was 1959. That things changed in the next 30 years is my point.
Why haven't things changed fundamentally in the 60 years since the creation of Israel? Is it because the oil is still flowing and supporting the oligarchs?
Perhaps if the Russian oil fields had been developed earlier the USSR never would have collapsed. An idea for someone else to speculate about. Policies not Politics ---- Daily Landscape
Even if the oil stopped flowing, it's likely that the Arabian peninsula and Eastern North Africa would be victims of massive hostile meddling from the major powers, because of their proximity to the Suez Canal. At least three different powers have direct strategic interests in the area: India, Russia and the EU - and the US, Iran and China have interests that are only marginally farther removed.
Everybody wants to control Suez - or at least make sure that nobody else controls it. And that's unlikely to change for the foreseeable future, because by geographic accident, it's a linchpin of global seaborne trade.
- Jake Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.
Right now we have to areas administered by Israel: Gaza and the West Bank. Those in these areas don't like Israel and vice versa. These areas are not economically viable and are sustained by foreign aid.
They can't have their own military or foreign policy and there are severe restrictions on the type of development they can engage in.
All I'm suggesting is that the administration of these areas be turned over to fellow Arab states, who more closely match the social and demographic makeup of these residents.
Discussions of borders, Israeli settlers within the region, etc. are details, and people focus on them as yet another way to avoid discussing the larger principles involved.
Not mentioned by all the anti-Israeli commentators is the horrific conditions of Palestinian refugees kept in other states of the region. Neither is their any discussion of the economic and social discrimination practiced on their own populations. Sunni, Shia, Jews, Christians, Kurds, etc. are all mistreated in one place or another.
Show me an Arab state which has a democratic government, treats its citizens well and has a decent level of economic parity and development. If they can't provide for their own populations then where do they get the moral authority to criticize others.
This does not absolve the misdeeds of the west or any other state, two wrongs don't make a right, but lets be honest here, focusing on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is still a way to avoid the fundamental problems of the middle east.
Add in the religious and nationalistic jingoism and you have a situation which seems unfixable. Rehashing old arguments isn't going to lead to any progress. Policies not Politics ---- Daily Landscape
How many states of any type satisfy that requirement?
However, at a bare minimum, any proposal to solve anything in Palestine and the immediate environs will need to address three questions:
Undermining, eliminating or co-opting the colonial powers, the local oligarchs and the other shady characters who benefit from continued conflict is certainly a good idea. If for no other reason, then because undermining, eliminating or co-opting colonial powers is usually a good idea all on its own... But I am not convinced that this will do anything to actively resolve the conflict, although it might prevent gratuitous addition of fuel to the fire.
That they have so much apparent influence is because they are granted it by those who want to maintain the status quo.
As for those trapped as refugees in other Arab states, the new component that I'm suggesting is giving them a big pot of money. You would be surprised at how the prospect of having a group of people with money to spend alters the attitudes of local officials towards immigrants. Policies not Politics ---- Daily Landscape
The Palestinian population, both inside and outside Palestine, is currently confined to an area that cannot sustain their population in any but the most abject poverty. This can change in three ways:
These considerations have nothing to do with magic sand people and everything to do with physical facts on the ground.
So unless you're prepared to countenance genocide, you'll have to either
They don't have to go anywhere else if the local government would just let them integrate into the general population. They wouldn't make a substantially greater impact on the host country either, they already take up some land and use water. At most their resource use might increase slightly as their standard of living improved.
The money that they would be given would get spent in the local economies and could be used to improve the lot of people generally, even if indirectly. If a child was given enough money to pay for their total education then it would not be a drain on the local tax base to educate them.
The problem isn't demographics or resources it is strictly political. The oligarchs want to keep the refugees apart as a way to apply pressure and prevent a resolution of the issues.
I live in New York and I've seen wave after wave of people come to the area and adapt and many of them have much larger cultural differences than do the Palestinians and, say, the Lebanese. Policies not Politics ---- Daily Landscape
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