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Nonetheless, I think certain inferences can be made, and I'll hazard being called irrational, self-reinforcing, and elitist, and say that the study doesn't need to be taken as gospel and may still yield important insights.
In addition, I think that if you look closely at the cultural map, you'll see that some countries that one can characterize as developing actually score higher than the US in the traditional-rational scale. (Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Armenia. Uruguay and Macedonia. All of eastern Europe.) The authors recognize that history and religious life are hugely important.
So I'll remain in danger of committing an elitist fallacy and see where the data leads. Another wave of survey is due to be conducted in the next two years. Perhaps we'll witness the complete collapse of the validity of their conclusions. "It Can't Be Just About Us"--Frank Schnittger, ETian Extraordinaire
Mere speculation on my part. Of course their definitions, the structure of the questionaires, their basic assumptions color the study, however it's important to stress that the positions on the cultural map are hardly static. The authors point out that any tendency towards rationality can be put into reverse. Their point is that it tends to correlate to economic conditions and their place in the human development sequence (agrarian/industrial/post-industrial).
Having said that, the data explains lots and nothing at all at the same time. For instance, I might have expected that the impulse to entrepreneurship to be exaggerated in self-expressive societies, but I happen to know that in the US, immigrant communities (whether from poorer Asian or Latin America countries) are exactly as entrepreneurial as better educated, richer, North Americans.
One of the things Inglehart and Welzel postulated was that the study might have value even if complex societal values constructs could be reduced to these two scales. Of course nuance is sacrificed. Any study acccurately reflecting the true complexities in the world would reult in a replica of the world, and be totally useless.
The value derived from a study like this, I think, tends to lie in areas where societies intersect and communication, with all the promise of the mixing as well as all the risk of misunderstanding, occurs.
Public diplomacy. International relations. Cross-cultural exchange.
Nowhere in the study do the researchers make judgements about the values they describe. I would go further than they, and speculate that the irrational faith in the "American ideal" is largely what keeps the polyglot of nationalities and regional identities from flying apart.
I credit the authors with finding a valuable line of inquiry - one that should be explored further. "It Can't Be Just About Us"--Frank Schnittger, ETian Extraordinaire
as far as Israel goes, I'd speculate that the values they largely reflect derive from the split from the areas of Eastern Europe where most settlers came from a century ago
Good question. There's where history applies. It's not to say there aren't anomalies in the data, I'd be amazed if there weren't, however as far as Israel goes, I'd speculate that the values they largely reflect derive from the split from the areas of Eastern Europe where most settlers came from a century ago.
They are not "Catholic Europe" either, of course, but they are "Mediterranean". Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
Because it is overwhelmingly Orthodox?
*Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Romania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The dominant religious body is the Romanian Orthodox Church, an autocephalous church within the Eastern Orthodox communion; its members make up 86.7% of the population according to the 2002 census.
And, then again, in some ex-commie countries (including Estonia), those with religious affiliations of even just the cultural kind are a minority... *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
I say: more power to Iranian women. "It Can't Be Just About Us"--Frank Schnittger, ETian Extraordinaire
All sorts of semi-revealing factoids are out there, for example: a greater percentage of Iranian women attend university than American women.
The Iranian team was one of very few teams to have any girls in the team. In fact it was 3 male and 3 female students, which must have put them at the top of the female opportunity league just behind Denmark.
However, the boys and girls sat at separate tables several metres apart and studied separately, with the instructor going back and forth between the two tables.
I don't know what this says for Iranian society vis-a-vis American society
But I' remember it. "It Can't Be Just About Us"--Frank Schnittger, ETian Extraordinaire
That said, there are some problems with sex segregation.
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