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What is power about? Power is the ability to get other people to do things they don't wan't to do.

I can't put my finger on exactly why this entire discussion set my nerves on fire, though this casual comment sums it up.

Both western and eastern civilizations are a catastrophe, and we are all paying the price. There is nothing more to be learned from previous editions of civilization to help draft real solutions to the insanity which passes for realism in today's geopolitics.

What' s needed can only come from outside the box.  What's needed are solutions which derive their "power" from higher intelligence, based upon a far deeper understanding of how humans relate to the surface of this world ship. Anything less is more garbage.

From the perspective of higher intelligence, if one power wishes to begin nuclear arbitrage, this race deserves to be wiped out. I want my tax Geld spent on something healthy, and i want idiots to stop determining what reality is.

But if one wishes to discuss potent weaponry, then i posit that LSD in the water supply has no equal.  As far as my credentials to posit such (if you missed it above)...


They are informed from a lifetime of dialogue with my chief mentor in windpower and more, who also happened to be the Chief Designer of the Nautilus class of nuclear submarines, the very first. I wish he was still with us, so he could take you behind the woodshed for some extra-curricular education.

You studied some books on political power theory?  and that endows you with what?

Without "clear and present" VISION, this race is doomed.  Capish?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 02:40:32 PM EST
Doomed? Well, in the long run we're all dead, I'll grant you that. But while it's always more exciting to crow about the coming disaster and dystopia, often as a way to force other people into ones very own definition of utopia, people always forget that the world is steadily becoming a better place. The cold war is over, and with it the threat of immediate and annihilating nuclear war, poverty is being quashed at a record pace, especially in Asia, where hundreds of millions or even billions of people have risen from absolute poverty into something which looks a bit like what we in the West managed half a century ago.

Sure there are problems, but when haven't there been problems? The thing with problems is that they often can be solved by hard work and insight, and I'm feeling pretty certain that once again we'll eventually triumph. And if we don't, well, then at least we tried. It's still a much better chance than proselytising about some "new clear and present vision" which'll never take off, for the simple reason that there are lots of very poor people left out there, without electricity or sanitation or nothing, who won't accept anything at all other than increasing their material standard of living.

But this doesn't really have anything to do with Trident.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 03:25:59 AM EST
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Starvid:
The cold war is over, and with it the threat of immediate and annihilating nuclear war

Global Village Idiot:
If i remember correctly, you were the person who began this diary stating that Britain needed to acquire a new round of nuclear weapons capability. (To re-emerge as a Great Power!)

Starvid:
even billions of people have risen from absolute poverty into something which looks a bit like what we in the West managed half a century ago

GVI:
At the expense of what, the entire surface ecosystem of the planet: topsoil, oceans, air?  Poverty is being quashed at a record pace?  At the expense of returning to feudal times, m'lord.

I'm thrilled you're feeling certain that with hard work and insight we'll triumph once again.  I was under the impression we haven't triumphed the first time yet. Have you taken a look at China recently? (Would you drink the water in so many places?)

I am certain that a new generation of nuclear submarines will help alleviate poverty and provide electricity and sanitation.

Nobody here is "crowing about the coming disaster and dystopia."  That's just the facts on the ground. I can be accused of crowing about needing a proper vision first, and then the will to implement it.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 06:20:09 AM EST
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there is a difference between immediate annihilating threat and the bare need for renewed detterrence capability.
by Xavier in Paris on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 06:49:33 PM EST
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