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"Blogs will remain unserious until governments realise how influential they can be. Once that happens we'll see consolidation, and a return to a similar model"

Once that happens we'll see the clampdown of censorship, you mean. One thing about newspapers is that you can publish one in your basement and distribute it at coffee shops. You can't do that on the Internet if the government doesn't want you to.

I think a bigger problem than the loss of the traditional print media is the move of EVERY form of communication to a medium--the Internet--that is so easily controlled: One phone call to the head of you local ISP and you're shut off.

With printed media and radio, there is at least a possibility of non-sanctioned communication, but we've mostly lost both...

by asdf on Mon Sep 14th, 2009 at 09:30:39 AM EST
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You can't do it in coffee shops if the government doesn't want you to, either.

The Soviets famously used to licence typewriters and mimeograph machines. What brought down the Soviet Union wasn't internal dissidence and samizdat, it was external propaganda and cultural missionary engineering.

Even if an ISP shuts you off you can always use FIDOnet, or some equivalent. If censorship were ever likely it wouldn't take long before Internet gateways and servers started appearing in foreign countries that couldn't be censored directly.

The Chinese have been having an interesting time trying to manage censorship. It sort of works, but it's a long way from being airtight.

A more significant problem on blogs is astro-turfing. If it's done skillfully enough it's far more dangerous and far more influential than sledge-hammer censorship.

The CIA are notorious for the tradmed equivalent of astro-turfing. It would be naive to expect that they're not ready to do the same on blogs.

dKos is already rife with it. As soon as people start getting too critical of Obama, up pops a testimonial to his ineffable awesomeness on the rec list.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 14th, 2009 at 11:55:29 AM EST
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ThatBritGuy:
If censorship were ever likely it wouldn't take long before Internet gateways and servers started appearing in foreign countries that couldn't be censored directly.

The Pirate Bay has been taken down, blocked etc and proxies and gateways has popped up. So yes that is what happens.

ThatBritGuy:

The Chinese have been having an interesting time trying to manage censorship. It sort of works, but it's a long way from being airtight.

According to some persons in China - who shall remain anonymous - the real censorship is not in the technical blockade but in the knowledge that using proxies and such might put you on the radar of the security police. So you ask yourself if it is worth it.

I think that the main thrust of internet censorship in Europe is done threw IP-legislation. An early draft of IPRED 2 included a proposal to criminalise patent incursions and give it a maximum sentence of 4 years in prison. So is using a proxy worth it if the proxy technology might be patented?

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Sep 14th, 2009 at 05:20:38 PM EST
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