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You don't believe al-Qaida, based in
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE,... Sudan, Egypt, Morocco, Spain...., in every hunger-ridden, muslim community in the world, including
Afghanistan, were the perpetrators and instigators of the 2001 terrorist attacks?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Tue Aug 25th, 2009 at 04:08:54 PM EST
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But al-Qaida was not based primarily in Afghanistan, were they had their planning groups, training camps, and leadership, all with the knowledge and support of the Taliban government?

The Talibans got their chance. The US showed a very large restraint, given the circumstances. They asked the Taliban to turn over Osama and company, and then the US would ignore their aiding and abetting of al-Qaida. They said no. Their mistake.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Wed Aug 26th, 2009 at 08:20:30 AM EST
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Well, I doubt you would find hunger-ridden, muslim communities in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE... or Spain

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Wed Aug 26th, 2009 at 09:18:38 AM EST
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Not all-inclusive wording?  The implication is that (the crimes of) hunger, poverty and lack of education lead people to unite by belief, find a common enemy, rebel and/or migrate where they may survive.  

All I know is that every few months the Spanish police report the arrest of some 'terrorist' cell associated with 'muslim beliefs' and I have seen myself small groups of muslim migrants ---mostly males--- foodless and workless, hiding and barely surviving in remote areas of Morocco (the Rif) and Spain.  That does NOT make them terrorists, but the extreme conditions to create conflict, exist in our 'exceptional', western world.  There are documentaries about it now, but maybe they don't apply to the 'back woods' of oil-rich countries.  (;

I have to wonder how many migrants will be forced to go 'back to nature' now, in exceptionally extreme places like Italy, that criminalizes being poor-without-passport and praises vigilanteism.  

The point was, I think, that accumulated misery is going global whether we like it, or not and putting the blame on one country without looking in the mirror is shameful.  

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Wed Aug 26th, 2009 at 02:19:27 PM EST
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