Giving people liberty is about defining what is liberty. Is it moving aroudn freely , or not being listened to..

Is liberty from Wall Street investors (a liberty I cheer the most) a fundamental value of, say the dogon people in Africa?

And what about labour.. what happens in societies where the land is equally divided and clans rotate to fulfill a group endevour... there is no reward for personal labour.. people can just help the other for structural reason without any reward whatsoever. Not even status, jsut by role playing.

I am afraid the things you see so obvious are not obvious at all.. and do not work almost anywhere. Not even in western urban societies.

The arguments you proposed belong to a very particualr narrative about the relevance of reward and crooks..
In a society where no self and no-personal belongings exist, tehre are no crooks....

In a society where the relevant thing is the position wihtin the society , the "crooks" are those deviating fro the position (they do not staeal anything, they just do not their part).

If you talk about rewaring status to specific behavior, then we agree, rewarding status is vital for human behavior but diffeent societies give status according to different resason. Being a crook in WS is rewarded with high status because they do not perceive themselves as crooks (they think they perform a wonderful mission of stealing/transfering capital, actually most of them only bet).

In a word, stuff is more compliated than that.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude