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Well we need  someone to fund a similar pro-EU research project, finding someone who will pay the range of multilingual researchers, isnt somewhere id even know where to begin. after that the think tank either needs to sart throwing the proper stories at  reporters and editors as a blizard, or make contact and then start bleed in things into the narative slowly.

Overcoming the inertia of ideas  will be hard though


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Apr 1st, 2010 at 10:02:09 AM EST
However, tsp's

But would they run this stuff unchallenged if it didn't fit in with the editors' worldviews or ideology?

indicates that just the think-tank wouldn't be enough. You'd have to buy some editorsmedia. And, as we know, the business model of the media is such that it's advertising money that really owns media. So, unless and until advertisers with deep pockets and products with mainstream appeal start frowning on anti-EU coverage, it may never happen.

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 1st, 2010 at 10:19:05 AM EST
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I've been saying this for nearly five years now, but you don't need deep pockets, or researchers. What you need is a web site with an official-looking header, a steady stream of not-very-throughly researched op-eds that can be promoted with email press releases, a postal address, possibly an office - which can be managed - and that's it.

That's all a lot of 'credible' Think Tanks really are.

The situation in the US is slightly different, because Washingon Think Tanks are farmed, so there's more of them and they do own real estate. This isn't necessary in either London or Brussels. It would certainly help to have a Westminster postal address rather than a Somerset one, but if the postal address is a registered office for accountancy purposes, not even that matters.

Press people parrot what they're given. That's how they work. They're conditioned to associate the words 'Think Tank' with credibility, and when there's a slow news day they're just as likely to print something with progressive spin as with reactionary spin.

The only reason the right does better at this is because they have the chutzpah to actually do it, rather than just thinking about doing it or talking about doing it.

Collectively, ET will continue to have minimal influence until this changes and we start driving the news cycle, instead of complaining and tutting that the Euro-sceptics are driving it.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Apr 1st, 2010 at 10:32:35 AM EST
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So how much does that cost?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Apr 1st, 2010 at 10:41:50 AM EST
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So how much does that cost (bis) ?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 1st, 2010 at 12:27:32 PM EST
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Website adress: 10-100 euros/year

Design of website: 1000 - 10 000 euros (depending on who does it and what you want) or donated in kind.

Postal adress of cheap kind. Would be couple of 100 euros/year in Sweden including forwarding of the mail to somewhere else. Dunno about Britain.

Spamming away op-eds: Donated in kind I guess, otherwise labor costs would be expensive.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Apr 5th, 2010 at 03:04:00 PM EST
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I'd be delighted (and amazed) to see this project take the road on the basis you outline there!

I'm not a betting man, but I'd bet quite a bit we'll never see it.

Am I cynically saying "ain't gonna happen"?

Yes.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Apr 5th, 2010 at 03:27:23 PM EST
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Who 'round here has the time to take on another project and keep it going for years for no pay?

I don't.  

That's what funding gives you: the space/time to Do.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Apr 5th, 2010 at 03:38:20 PM EST
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People contribute here for no pay, and have done for years. People have been producing press releases here for years, for no pay.

This is just ET in a (virtual) suit with a little more focus.

It's not a trip to Pluto, or an attempt to climb Everest with a broken spoon.

Am I cynically saying "ain't gonna happen"?

You can say that it won't happen without you. Which is certainly your choice to make.

Oddly enough, that's not quite the same thing as saying that it can't happen at all, ever.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Apr 5th, 2010 at 03:56:14 PM EST
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OK, waiting to see it.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Apr 5th, 2010 at 04:22:52 PM EST
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I don't even think it's a matter of buying, it's a matter of narratives that conveniently reinforced an existing ideology. Without that built-in bias, how do you get traction?
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Apr 1st, 2010 at 12:21:07 PM EST
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Don't owners sometimes make sure the editors have the required biases?

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 1st, 2010 at 12:27:33 PM EST
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ceebs:
Well we need  someone to fund a similar pro-EU research project, finding someone who will pay the range of multilingual researchers, isnt somewhere id even know where to begin.

i think you already did!
as tbg says below, ET has sorta started to do this.

except tink-tonks serve up ready-to-eat meals, we argue recipes in the kitchen.

the negative skew on the EU conditions brit public opinion, so now there's a reactive desire to counter that with snippets which can educate people to see the other side of the story.

very worthy, but the risk is that this t-t would be as skewed to the positive, which i repeat is necessary, but constrictive.

the work we do here hashing stuff out is more interesting than coming up with predigested soundbytes, but i see the propaganda value, though there's something off about it too, i guess because it's reactive, i dunno.

how do you stay impartial once you're branded as euro yes-men?

perhaps the anti EU sentiment sells papers because it's irrational, therefore man-bites-dog. in which case the calm voice of reason is going to be backpage news, like the rain forecast, it's a given.

people need truth, but they don't trust amen corners either...

can't make it add up somehow.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Apr 2nd, 2010 at 07:55:39 PM EST
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