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Constitutional or not, it's the wrong place to build a mosque. Instead of bridging the divide between Islam and the West, this project is doing the exact opposite before it's even started.
I didn't know that.
You should do some homework before making such statements, then.
Lynch:
I'm sure that it in no way contributed to the reconciliation between the Japanese and the Americans. If anything, it contributed to the contrary.
Ludicrously lame argument... "Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
Should Americans blame German-Americans for Hitler's antics during WWII, or Italian-Americans for Mussoulini's?
America just has to get over its Islamophobia just as we are starting to get over Black racism, and it does not help to acquiesce to the bigots or just plain ignorance to move the proposed site of the mosque. To do so would be a concession to bigotry and ignorance.
9/11 changed everything: didn't you get the memo?
we are starting to get over Black racism,
<wipes tears from eye>
It what part of my comment did I raise anything about Europe or European racism? I mean, you're technically correct, in that there is precisely zero information about racism in UK or Ireland or anti-Islamism in France or Europe in my comment, but I don't think that's what you meant.
(Hamburg and Dresden most famously, of course)
Let's not fool ourselves, the strategic imperative to massively kill civilians in order to break the enemy's will to fight is still alive and well (the US likes its shock and awe...). By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
Japanese-Americans were in fact interned. By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
I don't think so. Yet, there is that implication from a minority of Americans, mostly right wing GOP types, that all Muslims are extremists and interested in jihad against America. A mosque near Ground Zero is an insult to the victims of 9/11, even though Muslims and Muslim Americans were among the dead.
Ignorance and bigotry should not triumph in this controversy.
The problem was, as it is today for Muslims, that they, the Japanese, were different. They were not Caucasians for one thing, and they ate strange food, for another. Muslims are not Christians even though Jesus and Judaism is somehow incorporated into their "book."
Terrorism didn't just begin on 9/11, agreed.
Still, are all of these Euro-posts above intended to justify bigotry and prejudice in the NYC mosque controversy?
are all of these Euro-posts above intended to justify bigotry and prejudice in the NYC mosque controversy?
By "all these Euro-posts" do you mean we should shut up since we're not US citizens? (I believe gk may be one, though) By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
New GOP strategy to embrace Islamophobia (shergald) Two articles appeared in Alternet this morning arguing that the GOP intends to fully develop Islamophobia as a campaign strategy, and to use Islam and perhaps Muslim-Americans in their next scapegoats. GOP Fully Intends to Pit Americans Against Each Other Over the Cordoba House At a certain level, it's still hard to fathom why the Cordoba House is so controversial. A Burlington Coat Factory store closed down; a local religious leader wants to build a community center at the location. This isn't especially interesting.... National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (R-Texas) argued today on Fox News that his party, without a policy agenda or substantive ideas about the future, intends to pit Americans against each other over this issue during the campaign season. http://blogs.alternet.org/spea... And then, <b?Gingrich, Bolton, Breitbart Team Up With Far-Right Muslim-Basher Geert Wilders For 9/11 Rally </b> The right-wing group Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) has announced that it will be hosting a rally against the proposed Cordoba House Islamic community center on September 11. The confirmed list of speakers includes former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, Andrew Breitbart, and, notably, the far-right Dutch Parliamentarian Geert Wilders. "Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology," Wilders told the Guardian in 2009, "the ideology of a retarded culture." In the past, Wilders' extremism has been condemned by conservatives such as Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, and even Glenn Beck, who called Wilders "fascist." It's a clear sign of how far the Republicans have shifted to the right and embraced Islamophobia as a political tool that movement figures like Gingrich, Bolton, and Breitbart now have no problem sharing a stage with Wilders. http://blogs.alternet.org/spea... Palin of course is already part of the act. It is interesting to observe that, except for John Bolton, the Neoconservatives are not on board, yet. Keep tuned in.
New GOP strategy to embrace Islamophobia (shergald) Two articles appeared in Alternet this morning arguing that the GOP intends to fully develop Islamophobia as a campaign strategy, and to use Islam and perhaps Muslim-Americans in their next scapegoats.
GOP Fully Intends to Pit Americans Against Each Other Over the Cordoba House At a certain level, it's still hard to fathom why the Cordoba House is so controversial. A Burlington Coat Factory store closed down; a local religious leader wants to build a community center at the location. This isn't especially interesting.... National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (R-Texas) argued today on Fox News that his party, without a policy agenda or substantive ideas about the future, intends to pit Americans against each other over this issue during the campaign season. http://blogs.alternet.org/spea...
GOP Fully Intends to Pit Americans Against Each Other Over the Cordoba House
At a certain level, it's still hard to fathom why the Cordoba House is so controversial. A Burlington Coat Factory store closed down; a local religious leader wants to build a community center at the location. This isn't especially interesting....
National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (R-Texas) argued today on Fox News that his party, without a policy agenda or substantive ideas about the future, intends to pit Americans against each other over this issue during the campaign season.
http://blogs.alternet.org/spea...
And then,
<b?Gingrich, Bolton, Breitbart Team Up With Far-Right Muslim-Basher Geert Wilders For 9/11 Rally </b> The right-wing group Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) has announced that it will be hosting a rally against the proposed Cordoba House Islamic community center on September 11. The confirmed list of speakers includes former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, Andrew Breitbart, and, notably, the far-right Dutch Parliamentarian Geert Wilders. "Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology," Wilders told the Guardian in 2009, "the ideology of a retarded culture." In the past, Wilders' extremism has been condemned by conservatives such as Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, and even Glenn Beck, who called Wilders "fascist." It's a clear sign of how far the Republicans have shifted to the right and embraced Islamophobia as a political tool that movement figures like Gingrich, Bolton, and Breitbart now have no problem sharing a stage with Wilders. http://blogs.alternet.org/spea...
<b?Gingrich, Bolton, Breitbart Team Up With Far-Right Muslim-Basher Geert Wilders For 9/11 Rally </b>
The right-wing group Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) has announced that it will be hosting a rally against the proposed Cordoba House Islamic community center on September 11.
The confirmed list of speakers includes former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, Andrew Breitbart, and, notably, the far-right Dutch Parliamentarian Geert Wilders. "Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology," Wilders told the Guardian in 2009, "the ideology of a retarded culture."
In the past, Wilders' extremism has been condemned by conservatives such as Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, and even Glenn Beck, who called Wilders "fascist." It's a clear sign of how far the Republicans have shifted to the right and embraced Islamophobia as a political tool that movement figures like Gingrich, Bolton, and Breitbart now have no problem sharing a stage with Wilders.
Palin of course is already part of the act. It is interesting to observe that, except for John Bolton, the Neoconservatives are not on board, yet. Keep tuned in.
You may not recognize all the names, but just think Tony Blair.
You're complicit in this anti-Islamic campaign
We need help over here and you Euros are doing a thing to lend a hand.
Did you know that the 20 year old who screwed her daughter is running for mayor of an Alaskan town?
You may not recognize all the names
So did the Italians. Here is the NYT in an anti-garlic article from 1888. They were terrorists too, as in the 9/16 Wall Street bombing.
My only problem with it is that I still can't tell whether garlic is used in Irish corned beef and cabbage, which I love, when I can find it.
On the other hand, they keep saying that lean salami is an oxymoron.
America just has to get over its Islamophobia just as we are starting to get over Black racism
Just...wow. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
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