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he retains the ultimate authority to dissolve the legislature, to appoint or dismiss the Prime Minister and members of his cabinet.

So he is a monarch with real powers. As commonly the case with monarchs, the position is inherited.

Lynch:

For believers, theocracy is a form of government in which divine power governs an earthly human state, either in a personal incarnation or, more often, via religious institutional representatives (i.e., a church), replacing or dominating civil government.

I.e. if Morocco was a theocracy, their ruler would be appointed (in a real, not just formal way) by the church.

If theocracy is defined as a) a monarch with real powers (absolute or limited by constitution) who b) claims authority by divine will (grace of god, descendant of prophet/god) and c) enacts laws that lends support from religious texts, then most of the world prior to the 20th century would be defined as theocracies. I find such a definition less useful.

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by A swedish kind of death on Thu Aug 19th, 2010 at 06:23:01 AM EST
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Since the Wikipedia entry about theocracy has been mentioned, maybe this further precision could help clarify some disputed notions:

Theocracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Theocracy should be distinguished from other secular forms of government that have a state religion, or are merely influenced by theological or moral concepts, and monarchies held "By the Grace of God".

That's what we've been saying haven't we?

Also:

For believers, theocracy is a form of government in which divine power governs an earthly human state, either in a personal incarnation or, more often, via religious institutional representatives (i.e., a church), replacing or dominating civil government

(my emphasis)

By this definition, the Vatican comes up on top.

by Bernard on Thu Aug 19th, 2010 at 07:49:15 AM EST
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Furtermore, theocracy is not caesaropapism

"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Thu Aug 19th, 2010 at 09:04:23 AM EST
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All hail nominalism!

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Aug 19th, 2010 at 09:08:18 AM EST
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Amusing examples of French Presidents and powerless Queens aside, what would be comparable to the current Egyptian system is if the (let's say French) Constitution proclaimed Catholic Canon Law as being supreme in the interpretation of civil and penal justice, and if the state financed Catholic Tribunals to administer that Canon Law throughout France. If that were the case, you'd all be screaming that France is an oppressive, freedomless, bigoted theocracy. Of course, you'd have a valid point. And yet at the same time, you're all arguing that Egypt isn't a theocracy and that I'm producing... what was the word? Drivel? Inquisitive indeed, and just so arrogant!

I fail to understand why so many of you go out of your way to defend (or at least ignore) Islam's excesses while at the same time being so quick to denigrate Christianity and the Jews. Instead of criticizing Wahhabist bigotry on ET, we get "Yellow Crescents Armband Alerts". While it's certainly commendable to denounce racism, it's outright dangerous to denounce it in a unilateral manner because doing so will just exacerbate racism on both sides.

by Lynch on Thu Aug 19th, 2010 at 01:32:44 PM EST
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you go out of your way to defend (or at least ignore) Islam's excesses while at the same time being so quick to denigrate Christianity and the Jews.

Perfect strawman. So, saying that Egypt is not a theocracy means defending Islam's excesses (whatever that means)? We simply don't accept your narrative equating Islam and terrorism, period.

And could you please tell us when we denigrated the Jews? Or Christianity?

FYI, I have lived more than ten years in Arab countries, including Morocco and Saudi Arabia, so I am well aware of the oppression and crimes that are committed in the name of Islam...

"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char

by Melanchthon on Thu Aug 19th, 2010 at 02:30:48 PM EST
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I'm not sure we're reading the same thread. Perhaps you could point out where I equate Islam with terrorism.
by Lynch on Thu Aug 19th, 2010 at 03:44:06 PM EST
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