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How can a rich person ever claim that a poor person would be better off with their wealth and not come across as absurdly patronising?

You're giving the standard capitalist party of line, of course - growth is good, etc.

I'm sure there are people in China and Taiwan who'd agree with you.

But they may not be the ones in the factories doing the work.

Your mendacious implication is that 'riches' are a one dimensional good that Africans either have or don't have.

In practice what usually seems to happen when Westerners turn up promising riches, is that the riches are perhaps not made as widely available as they might be.

Anyone who questions this too aggressively will indeed be killed or tortured.

And perhaps you're not aware of the new anticapitalist movements which aren't interested in G20 confrontations or grandstanding, but are interested in promoting sufficiency rather than greed as a core social value, and which see the capitalist West as an inherently dysfunctional and insane place no matter how rich the people appear to be.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Aug 26th, 2010 at 06:50:06 PM EST
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And perhaps you're not aware of the new anticapitalist movements which aren't interested in G20 confrontations or grandstanding, but are interested in promoting sufficiency rather than greed as a core social value, and which see the capitalist West as an inherently dysfunctional and insane place no matter how rich the people appear to be.

Actually, I'm not. I'm not aware of anything that can honestly be called a "new anti-capitalist movement" today and that has the kind of force for change in society in any way comparable to the failed, confrontational approaches of the 1970's and 1980's.  I see bloggers/dreamers and a few NGO's, and some good people doing their own thing in different parts of the world as counter-culture people have always done, but as a movement, it looks to be a depressingly declining thing, not a rising one as the force of globalization increasingly overtakes the power to control local matters. What are you referring to?

by santiago on Thu Aug 26th, 2010 at 07:51:12 PM EST
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Well, I can't say I'm surprised you're not.

The dreamers are the capitalists. Physically and socially impossible development demands remain the perfect definition of late capitalist insanity.

I'd suggest the anti-growth movements might well be reviving under the radar. Just because they're not punching policemen doesn't mean they're not active.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Aug 26th, 2010 at 08:05:41 PM EST
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So who are they?  Examples?
by santiago on Thu Aug 26th, 2010 at 08:07:35 PM EST
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