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As you say, it's all a question of what you like in a beer.  German beer is boring, and Belgian beer is just awful.

Now admittedly that's from a sample of German and Belgian stuff that makes it stateside (or England when I was there), and I'm sure that's not a great sample.

And admittedly I'm prejudiced against the Germans, because they're the ones who ruined American beer before Carter allowed the microbreweries to spring up.  Budweiser is Germany's fault.  And so are all those hideous brews they have in Milwaukee.

But I like dark, smooth beer, so I tend to gravitate towards the English and Irish stuff.  And some of the American stuff, but the American brews tend to have too much alcohol for me (7-9% vs 4-5% for English/Irish).  I'd rather have low-ABV stuff that I can drink while watching a game for a few hours without being hammered by the end.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Aug 8th, 2010 at 08:34:28 AM EST
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"But I like dark, smooth beer..."

There you go again (to quote that dimwit Reagan), you proved my point about: it's all about personal taste. This idea of Helen that trained experts can give you the low down on what you would like is pure nonsense.


by shergald on Sun Aug 8th, 2010 at 01:22:23 PM EST
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You make it sound as though personal taste is fully informed in all people, and imply that there is nothing to learn - about, for instance, beer.

Any sense can be trained to be more discriminating, with practical know-how.

How many millions love hamburgers and have very personal preferences for the chain and a particular product? But if these people are unaware of a whole new level of food above, made from fresh, good, sustainable ingredients with a careful palette of tastes, then their 'choices' really are uniformed.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Aug 8th, 2010 at 01:35:09 PM EST
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Not quite Swen.

What I really said was that we can and do learn to discriminate the dogs, and know when a dog is a dog. Now that may not be true of Koors drinkers. But after that it is a matter of taste. There is no cream of the cream except that you decide so. And many of the commenters essentially say that when they declare a preference. Also our tastes are limited to the number of beers we can sample, and certainly beer festivals is not the place for two reasons: our taste buds are corrupted going from one beer to the next, and then it is logically impossible to taste all of the beers, considering that the American pavillion alone had 100 beers on tap. There must certainly have been upward of a thousand beers ready to sample. And I do think that beer tasting experts are prone to the same foibles, ugh, not another beer, help me, please.

And finally training taste buds to discriminate beers by breaking the taste down into components misses the gestalt provided by the whole experience. Hence, we must assume that the average beer drinker is limited in the number of beers he could ever taste and that he will eventually decide on the best one "for him," based on his personal taste. Read the comments, and you might agree.


by shergald on Sun Aug 8th, 2010 at 02:01:28 PM EST
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