Ed Miliband's victory: will it bring about change we can believe in? | 92 comments (92 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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How much is Britain like the US when it comes to elections? That is to say, in the US, there is massive concentration of wealth in the upper 1% which leads to a tiny voter base trying to keep power. They do so by pitting factions of the have-nots against each other via propaganda/advertising/outright lying and the have-not idiots fall for it. Is that how it works in Britain? Is there really a grass-roots support for the tories?

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 08:11:52 PM EST

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Well you have the added twist that the Tory party is in some ways the Monarchist/Nationalist party. whereas the Labour party has an air of internationalism/republicanism Theres a concentration of wealth that has been there for nearly 1000 years (As there is in many parts of Europe) so you have people who believe that the richest actually deserve to be rich while the rest deserve to be poor.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 08:52:48 PM EST
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... so you have people who believe that the richest actually deserve to be rich while the rest deserve to be poor.

WOW! Truly the mentality of a slave class.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 08:55:36 PM EST
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Yes indeedy.

Why do you think Nietzsche went on (and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on) about Master and Slave Morality? The necessary first step to get out from under the Landlords (Aristocracy) or the Bosses (plutocrats) is to privilege oneself as worthy and, therefore, refuse to be dominated psychologically and intellectually.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 09:06:32 PM EST
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Well they have a folk memory of 45 generations of a single family mostly being in some form of charge, so more background noise than slave mentality

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 09:10:16 PM EST
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This only goes to show how superior the British political system is over the US system. You dudes (and dudettes) have an automatic supply and re-supply of in-bred ignorant brain-damaged toffs for the House of Lords. WE have to go out and find 'em for the US Senate, at great effort and expense, too! (I may add.)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 09:17:14 PM EST
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I'm in the middle of reading the guide book to the Aristocracy (amongst others) and there are many who deserve to be put in charge of something, im just not sure what

Brewer's Rogues, Villains and Eccentrics Brewer'S ...: Amazon.co.uk: William Donaldson: Books

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 09:29:06 PM EST
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I didn't know there was a Brit version of the Boone and Crockett hunting guide.

Or do you still run the classic

competitions?

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 10:13:17 PM EST
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Someone's in great form tonight. You been drinkin'?

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 09:38:36 PM EST
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Nope.

(Although that may change in about 3 minutes.)

Just letting 'er rip.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 10:07:00 PM EST
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Sounds like the excuse of the idiot to me. My lineage is abject poverty but I have the good sense to tell the wealthy to go fuck themselves.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Sep 25th, 2010 at 09:34:09 PM EST
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Ed Miliband's victory: will it bring about change we can believe in? | 92 comments (92 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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